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Old 12-30-2013, 12:13 PM    (permalink
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If we are switching up on offense I'd rather some consistency with our defense. The defense was good this year. The players like Fewell. We've won with him before. I see no reason to change.
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Sounds like Coughlin doesnt want any staff changes but will have meeting with GM/Owners all week. I guess we're going to have them forced on Coughlin.
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Par for the course.
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Yup. The one thing that always bothered me about Coughlin is his stubborness.
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It's a gift and curse for him. His loyalty and character is why players play so hard for him.

But his stubbornness also costs him games.
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It's a gift and curse for him. His loyalty and character is why players play so hard for him.

But his stubbornness also costs him games.
Yeah that is certainly true.

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Wouldn't mind Jenkins for another year, I thought all of our DT played well.
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Wouldn't mind Jenkins for another year, I thought all of our DT played well.
Jenkins is already signed for 2014. Patterson and Rogers are not however.
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Just read John Mara's comments and it sounds like Gilbride is a goner and we're going to bring back Mike Sullivan to run the offense. Would that be much of a difference?
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Nope. It would be the same crap with window dressing.
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Jenkins is already signed for 2014. Patterson and Rogers are not however.
Excellent, thought he was on a 1 yr deal. The other two played well too, but I'd like to get Hankins more involved (and by the end of the year, it looked like the team agreed).
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Just read John Mara's comments and it sounds like Gilbride is a goner and we're going to bring back Mike Sullivan to run the offense. Would that be much of a difference?
You're reaching there. Mara was all over the place.
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You're reaching there. Mara was all over the place.
Maybe on the Sullivan thing but definitely not on Gilbride. He called the offense broken. If that's the case how in the world can you retain Gilbride.
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Excellent, thought he was on a 1 yr deal. The other two played well too, but I'd like to get Hankins more involved (and by the end of the year, it looked like the team agreed).
Yeah I'm with you. I think Jenkins, Joseph, Hankins, and maybe re-sign Patterson or Rogers to 1 year deal is way above average at DT.
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Maybe on the Sullivan thing but definitely not on Gilbride. He called the offense broken. If that's the case how in the world can you retain Gilbride.
He called the offense broken and then said we can't bring back the same personnel. Are you assuming that means coaches? I think it means players.

He also said "We obviously over-valued some people" and "We haven't gotten production out of certain draft spots."

But then he was vague about the coaches and Sullivan as well.

I don't think you can read anything into any of this except that he wasn't happy with the season.

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We're fine at DT as long as we bring back our guys.

DE, LB, CB need to be addressed on defense. But this offseason needs to be focused on offense and I'm guessing it will be.
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OLine, OLine, OLine. That's what I want. A stud OLine makes every aspect of offense improve.
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We need to extend rolle and keep Beason.

And ******* just go OL all out. This is the first thing forenci is right on in ever
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And ******* just go OL all out. This is the first thing forenci is right on in ever
Hey screw you pal! I'm right about lots of things! Like the Knicks and Nets both sucking! And about other things as well!

I agree about keep Rolle and Beason though. Although, only if we can structure Rolle's contract properly.
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Reports saying management wants Gilbride out. Coughlin will possible resign if he's forced to fire him though?
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I think we will be looking to replace Marc Ross and Perry Fewell this offseason.

I think Marc Ross will get the GM job at Tampa Bay with Lovie Smith as coach

I also think with Fewell off-contract, the Giants will choose to go in different directions. Basically Fewell will carry the can for the poor defensive showing through the first half of the season (particularly as they played well over the back half of the season).
I expect Fewell will join Tampa Bay as DC under Lovie Smith.

I also think Tom Quinn is gone as well.
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Not sure how you can say that and still support Coughlin.
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Not sure how you can say that and still support Coughlin.
It means Coughlin is going to have to adapt his style a little. He has done that well in the past.
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Sounds like Coughlin doesnt want any staff changes but will have meeting with GM/Owners all week. I guess we're going to have them forced on Coughlin.
There will be staff changes.

My picks:

I wouldn't be surprised if Fewell is gone. He won't be fired as he is off contract, but I think we go in a different different.

I think Tom Quinn is gone, our special teams has just been far too inconsistent.

I expect Sean Ryan is gone.
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what I would like to see as fair as our coaching staff goes:


Bring in:

Mike Sullivan as Quarterbacks Coach

Mike Priefer (Vikings) as Special Teams Coordinator

Lezlie Frazier (Vikings) as Defensive Coordinator

Alan Williams (Vikings) as Defensive Backs Coach

Fred Pagac (Vikings) as Linebackers Coach

Mike Singletary (Vikings) as Special asst. to HC/Linebackers
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