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Old 05-04-2014, 07:03 PM    (permalink
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I have been looking at the depth at QB and it is rather strong.

There are rumours that the Giants are interested in trading Ryan Nassib.

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"Reese had every opportunity in the world to end any speculation that last year's fourth-round pick Ryan Nassib may be traded. Instead, he said the Giants will 'keep all of our options open,' with the young quarterback," noted Jordan Raanan of NJ.com. "That's usually code word for they will try to trade him.

"Reese admitted the Giants still don't know much about Nassib, even after a year of watching him during practice. That's not exactly a good sign or resounding show of support. ... Expect the Giants to, at the very least, be open to taking offers for Nassib, if they aren't themselves the aggressors, either before the draft or during training camp."
This year's QB class is not strong and a case could be made that Nassib is at least as good as the 2nd tier QBs this year.

If we were to consider trading Nassib, what would his value be? a 2nd or 3rd round pick? I remember Reese saying last year that they thought Nassib had second round value.
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Reese always says he keeps his options open.
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I don't believe for a second that we could net anything more than a 4th round pick for Nassib.
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I don't believe for a second that we could net anything more than a 4th round pick for Nassib.
I could see Nassib being traded for an early third round pick. There are a lot of QB needy teams and I think Nassib is a better option than the expected prospects.

If we don't get that kind of offer, I expect we keep Nassib.
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These questions and answers at Jerry Reese's predraft press conference hint strongly to me that Ebron is not in the mix at #12

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Q: Historically this team has relied on the tight end quite a bit. Would you be comfortable moving forward with the guys you have on your roster right now?

A: Historically we’ve relied on our tight end?

Q: Well, they’ve had a prominent role.

A: Really?

Q: I seem to remember the tight ends catching important passes.

A: Yeah, well, we think we have some tight ends who can catch some important passes. Prominent role? We want all of our positions to be prominent roles. I’m not sure if we had, if our tight ends had prominent roles in the past. We want a competent tight end. We think we have a couple of young tight ends that have been here for a couple of years that we want to develop and we’ll continue to look as we move forward. Was the question would I move up in the draft for a tight end? Is that what you said?

Q: No.

A: Ok, I’m sorry.

Q: Does what you look for in a tight end change? The position seems to be changing a little bit, guys that are spread out wide even more, in the slot. The rules kind of favor them in terms of being able to make contact with them. There seem to be bigger, more athletic guys at that position.

A: Everyone wants big, fast tight ends who can block and catch balls. It’s the same thing all over the league. Everybody wants those guys. Sometimes you can get a smaller guy who, I guess they’ve coined them as H-back kind of guys and receiving tight ends. We’d like guys who are big and fast and can block and can catch at that position.
Nothing really amazing there, but it backs up other sources with concerns about Ebron's fit with NYG.

I think we go with another position at #12

I also think RB is definately in the mix from day 2
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I am wondering if there is a chance we could trade up if we really covet one of the elite prospects.

Oakland are rumoured to be desperate to trade down and have gone for less than value in the past.

Plenty of other teams also want to trade down.

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I agree there are a lot of teams wanting to trade down, but why do we need to trade up? A lot of the teams willing/trying to trade down are doing so in order to reap benefits instead of simply taking Quarterbacks. Just like in the circumstance I think Houston is in, they'll need to either deal with not getting true value. And in not getting true value of their pick I do feel like they'd rather just make the pick to avoid losing out on their guy.
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I agree there are a lot of teams wanting to trade down, but why do we need to trade up? A lot of the teams willing/trying to trade down are doing so in order to reap benefits instead of simply taking Quarterbacks. Just like in the circumstance I think Houston is in, they'll need to either deal with not getting true value. And in not getting true value of their pick I do feel like they'd rather just make the pick to avoid losing out on their guy.
We don't need to trade up, I just wonder if there is an elite guy we really like. If there is then it is an option and it could be affordable.
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Reese always says he keeps his options open.
Exactly. Also, I think if Nassib is being traded it's to help us move up in a round.
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I think you are probably right.
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Round 1 I might be able to but I have to work Friday night so will miss all of 2 and 3. Sucks for me.
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God damn Will Hill, he looked so good at the end of last season. Just asking for opinions, but what if marijuana is legalized in more states? Does that mean for the NFL to selectively penalize teams? If there is a double standard amongst NFL players wouldn't it just be best to stray away from penalizing at all?

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Doesn't matter if it's legal in certain areas as long as the NFL considers it a banned substance.

Hill is just an idiot. C'mon bro. Just save it for the off-season.
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Doesn't matter if it's legal in certain areas as long as the NFL considers it a banned substance.

Hill is just an idiot. C'mon bro. Just save it for the off-season.
Do you think we keep him at all?
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No clue. I'm fine with keeping him but we need to basically just pretend like he's not there. If he stays clean, so be it, it's an added bonus.
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Will Hill has to resolve his appeal against suspension first.

He was reportedly on his last chance with Reese so it is a dicey situation.
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