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Old 08-04-2014, 04:50 PM    (permalink
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The Profootballfocus rating for the Giants hof preseason game are

Offense -11.0 (-1.0 pass, 1.3 run, -5.3 pass block, -6.6 run block, 0.6 pen)

Defense 8.3 (3.6 run def, 0.0 pass rush, 3.6 pass cov, 1.1 pen)

Special Teams 3.1
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notable performances by pff rating (green ratings)

2.9 Jay Bromley (27 snaps)
2.9 Spencer Adkins (33 snaps)
2.7 Jacquain Williams (20 snaps)
2.5 Matthias Kiwanuka (16 snaps)
2.0 Zack Bowman (27 snaps)
1.9 Mark Herzlich (28 snaps)
1.8 Jordan Stanton (20 snaps)
1.7 Jamaal Johnson-Webb (15 snaps)
1.6 Marcus Harris (22 snaps)
1.3 Cooper Taylor (39 snaps)
1.3 Corey Washington (18 snaps)
1.2 Jameel McClain (20 snaps)
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Really feel bad for Wilson but at least he had the chance to play in the NFL.
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Really feel bad for Wilson but at least he had the chance to play in the NFL.
I wish him all the best, though it is sad for him.
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I would like to see Richburg get some reps with the first team at RG
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From what I saw from the TEs inline blocking they did fine. The shifting and blocking from the FB position was painful to watch.
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From what I saw from the TEs inline blocking they did fine. The shifting and blocking from the FB position was painful to watch.
It is early days (and we have less than half of our offense installed) but our blocking does need to improve.

JPP was disappointing though considering he is supposedly 100% healthy and really motivated.

Nice early signs from our LBs though
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It is early days (and we have less than half of our offense installed) but our blocking does need to improve.

JPP was disappointing though considering he is supposedly 100% healthy and really motivated.

Nice early signs from our LBs though
Herzlich was impressive when he dropped back and covered that slot receiver. Almost came away with an int.
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I am interested to see how we fill the expected available roster spot from Wilson. I don't think we add a RB, I think we are pretty happy with the bunch we have at the moment and were prepared to go without Wilson this season if need be.

The fact that we have brought in a few lineman show that depth is a concern.

The other spot is TE, Donnell and Fells have flashed but the others haven't and now Fells is hurt.

I am not sure there is much available that would help us on the open market.

I would like to see us kick the tyres on trade options, perhaps someone like Mitchell Schwartz, Jermaine Gresham or Rob Housler could be available for a reasonable price?
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Herzlich was impressive when he dropped back and covered that slot receiver. Almost came away with an int.
Nice to see, looks like Herzlick, McClain and Williams did ok

Adkins seems to have done well and Kennard was solid.

Add in Beason and Paysinger and this unit has some interesting potential
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Williams never took the next step I always thought he would. Hopefully it happens this year.
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I really am upset about Wilson, I feel like maybe he wouldn't have had to kill and overexert himself to get into favor with Coughlin had he not been sat like a HS player when he fumbled. Its sad. I really saw a Spiller-esque playmaker in him and has me thinking about offering a 2nd rounder for Spiller.
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Nearly half of 2011-12 draft picks no longer play for Giants

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I brought that up yesterday.
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Hakeem Nicks is not a bust, he's not the core player we wanted to gain and probably should've had injuries and attitude not taken a dive for the worst. However its rather obvious we need to draft better. I hate that Jerry doesn't want to move up/down for players/value. If you like a guy and think that he is the real deal then get him.
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I often wonder how much longer, and contentious, practice would be if McAdoo ran into the end zone + celebrated each TD like Fewell does.


This is a tweeter by the BBI beat guy who covers the Giants. As an offensive coach, I'd be annoyed by Fewell.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...srael-idonije/

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Meh. He might not survive PS honestly. It's probably a comp btw him and Ayers for the last spot on the depth chart.
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So I usually chart plays durign the preseason because I like evaluating developing players during this time since we rarely get to see them during the season. But I was unable to do that for this game, so here are some quick thoughts:

-I feel like Andre Williams is going to be a player. He has great burst, quickness, a good combination of balance and strength, he can run inside and outside and he's slippery. What I mean by that is he can fit himself into lanes that our other backs can't fit into, and he does this with burst and vision, and with our awful OL we need a guy like that. I'm hoping he can learn pass pro and catching sooner than later, bc I want him starting sooner rather than later. Realistically he'll be 2 on the depth chart and see spot duty this year, but he's a solid back for the future.

-JPP looked like ass. Either he's still hurt or just didn't care. Maybe both.

-Hankins got some Pat Williams in him. Not saying he's that good, but his game is similar and he's going to be a very good replacement to Linval.

-Moore was solid. Still needs to work on setting the edge but I like his ability as a pass rusher. A little small, he could use another 10 lbs of bulk on him.

-Kiwi is so avg, but we still need his averageness.

-We still are a mediocre tackling defense. Hoping that a lot of that is rust.

-OL looks like trash. Moseley and Brown are still pretty terrible. RG is going to be a problem this year. LT will be too if Beatty doesn't bounce back. We need Richburg to play RG if possible.

-Donnell sucks at blocking. Our TEs are so meh right now.

-I'm concerned with the lack of separation by the WRs in this game.

-Eli still needs to work on his feet in this new offense.

-Cruz needs to learn how to run routes in this set route offense.

-Randle needs to separate more.

-Prince looks big and stiff. I'm concerned about him vs speed WRs.

-Our blitzes still suck. I hate Perry Fewell. And I know it's PS, but the douche is still running predominately zone.

-From first glance, this just looks like a team without much talent.
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Prince played really well man to man all game so disagree with you there.

I think we see Walton at C and Richburg at RG as suggested.

on BBI apparently a lot of people re-watched the game and they said Donnell was as bad as appeared.
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I saw a lot of Cover 3 in that game, I didn't see much man coverage with the 1s.

Prince is very good when he can get his hands on you and slow you down, but if you have that 2nd gear he's gonna struggle bc he doesn't have the quicks to keep up on a double move vs a guy with elite burst. I love the play he made in the endzone though.
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Hillis going to be out for a little while now. ODB getting closer to return.
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Curious to see what ODB looks like on the field. We didn't get enough separation vs the Bills, hopefully ODB can stretch the seams a little bit.
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Donnell had a pretty good block to seal the edge on the long williams run
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http://www.giants.com/videoindex/wilson080614.html

David Wilson's retirement speech, pretty sad to watch. Hopefully he can find a way to still be involved with the NFL somehow
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