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MikeGarafolo Mike Garafolo
Source concurs Nicks is fine. "Bone bruise at worst." #nyg
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That's what they said about Ike Davis also.
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That's what they said about Ike Davis also.
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Haha. I literally laughed out loud at work when I read this.
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09-12-2011, 03:53 PM
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Still want Sanu lol.
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Yes please. If we really want to go WR in this draft in the 1st round we're going to have plenty of options.
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09-12-2011, 03:54 PM
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Haha. I literally laughed out loud at work when I read this.
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Sad but true. I can't handle that again.
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09-12-2011, 04:03 PM
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I'm betting Tuck and Nicks are going on IR.
I can taste it. It just makes sense at this point. Why not? The whole team will be on IR by week 5.
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Jason Pierre-Paul is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
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09-12-2011, 04:05 PM
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I wanted to make a gif of Sanu's sick TD catch but this will have to do for now:

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09-12-2011, 04:09 PM
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Beast.
Put him and Nicks opposite of each other, and we'll be back in business next year. Hell, draft Sanu and bring Smith back. F it, why not?
And let's get a damn running back who can catch while we're at it.
And a TE who doesn't run a 8 second 40.
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09-12-2011, 04:10 PM
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Haha I'm not totally giving up on this year. There were at least a few positives. They played the run well. If Tuck and Osi come back healthy and Fewell cleans his dumb zone scheme up we can still be fine. Those are some big if's though I guess.
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09-12-2011, 04:11 PM
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Seriously guys? Over-reaction much? It's been one game after a shortened season with a bunch of young receivers in a stupidly complex offense with a new OL learning how to play together and an injury ravaged defense. If we look like **** next week and the week thereafter with no signs of progress then we can worry. But we knew these guys would need the early part of the season to gel on offense and neither Nicks or Tuck are on IR yet and Osi's not back yet. This team can still play a lot better than they did.
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JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham
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Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.
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Most misleading 10+ sack season EVER.
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09-12-2011, 04:12 PM
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I think everyone is having a little fun to let some steam off from yesterday. By no means do I think the season is over as evidenced by my post above yours.
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09-12-2011, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense
Beast.
Put him and Nicks opposite of each other, and we'll be back in business next year. Hell, draft Sanu and bring Smith back. F it, why not?
And let's get a damn running back who can catch while we're at it.
And a TE who doesn't run a 8 second 40.
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No, this is not allowed. Sorry.
I came here wondering who felt worse about yesterdays losses... Giants fans or Cowboys fans... Still don't know. But doesn't it suck?
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09-12-2011, 04:13 PM
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Even if we somehow salvage this season, I still want a WR.
Why not? We need playmakers on offense. It's obvious, even if Barden magically pulls a career out of his ass we still need another WR.
And a TE.
Other than LB, we shouldn't touch defense this coming draft. It should be offense, offense, and more offense.
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09-12-2011, 04:14 PM
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Yeah I'm clinging onto hope for now. I really wish Barden was healthy. That's the x factor of our season. He'll ultimately determine our fate if it isn't sealed before he gets off the PUP.
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09-12-2011, 04:15 PM
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All above is true. But this is a must win in my opinion. And you never want that scenario week 2. Yes I know we went 0-2 and almost lost week 3 when we won the Super Bowl, but 0-2 teams rarely make the playoffs. And it won't be getting any easier with our schedule.
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No, this is not allowed. Sorry.
I came here wondering who felt worse about yesterdays losses... Giants fans or Cowboys fans... Still don't know. But doesn't it suck?
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Yup...
At least you guys looked good out there vs a great team. We looked like ass vs the Redskins.
The Redskins. I know they won't suck that bad this year, but they still aren't a good team.
Plus we have an all star team on the IR roster right now.
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09-12-2011, 04:18 PM
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All above is true. But this is a must win in my opinion. And you never want that scenario week 2. Yes I know we went 0-2 and almost lost week 3 when we won the Super Bowl, but 0-2 teams rarely make the playoffs. And it won't be getting any easier with our schedule.
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Jackson and Amendola already confirmed as out. Tuck should be back and I believe Osi will be back Week 3. Maybe we will pull something out of our ass against the Eagles and then all of a sudden yesterday doesn't look as bad.
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Plus we have an all star team on the IR roster right now.
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I don't know about that, but yeah we're banged up right now.
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09-12-2011, 04:19 PM
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I don't know about that, but yeah we're banged up right now.
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I was being sarcastic.
Thomas stings though. Of all the people to get hurt, that one stings the most.
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09-12-2011, 04:21 PM
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I was being sarcastic.
Thomas stings though. Of all the people to get hurt, that one stings the most.
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It does. Because of the quality of the player but also the position. I feel CB is maybe the biggest drop of talent between a starter and say your 4th-6th players. QB too obviously.
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Sorry to barge in here with a seemingly useless fantasy question, but I need help with it and trust you Giants fans.
I have a spot for DLinemen and currently have Justin Tuck. Should I keep him or swap him for JPP? JPP beasted yesterday, as far as Dlinemen go, so I was wondering if you guys knew if he'll be in a position to keep similar numbers during the season, or if Tuck will cut into his playing time, or what happens.
Who'd you get/keep?
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09-12-2011, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn
Sorry to barge in here with a seemingly useless fantasy question, but I need help with it and trust you Giants fans.
I have a spot for DLinemen and currently have Justin Tuck. Should I keep him or swap him for JPP? JPP beasted yesterday, as far as Dlinemen go, so I was wondering if you guys knew if he'll be in a position to keep similar numbers during the season, or if Tuck will cut into his playing time, or what happens.
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Keep Tuck. Because JPP will probably be used strictly as a 3rd down rusher once Osi comes back.
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It does. Because of the quality of the player but also the position. I feel CB is maybe the biggest drop of talent between a starter and say your 4th-6th players. QB too obviously.
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Yeah. Plus WR cores tend to be deeper than CB cores to begin with, so when you lose a very good CB, the domino effect is exponential having a #3 CB suddenly have to cover the other team's #2 WR which means your 4 is on their 3 etc.
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Thomas was always one of the best tacklers on the team so we took a hit there as well.
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I'd get JPP at least until both Osi and Tuck come back. He should have more sacks. I feel like his talents will show up more in a stat sheet than Tucks will.
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JPP's club is scary good. He's so strong, and he's so long, when he clubs you it's like you weren't even there. He tosses people with that club move.
I really hope Fewell uses Tuck as UT and JPP as RE on nickel formations like Spags did. He did that during the PS and the results were great.
It's so simple and effective, yet nobody has done it since Spags left. I just don't get coaches sometimes. It's like they try to overthink it instead of doing what's obviously effective.
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I agree. Nothing effects a QB more like pressure right up the middle.
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