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Old 09-16-2011, 09:46 AM    (permalink
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also, if he's still on the team by week 7, maybe I'll get a Stokley jersey
Why would you waste your money on a guy who will be here for maybe a year at most?
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Scottyboy,

Why on earth would you spend all that money on a Stokley jersey? He has been on 5 teams already, and not sure how long he will be on our team.
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So is JPP ready to bust out? Saw him a little during the game and he looked like a real physical presence. My understanding was he would probably be a little bit of a project and that it would take a lot of refining before he would be able to use his impressive tools to dominate consistently.

What's going to happen when both Osi and Tuck get back? Will he still start? I can't imagine your organization would want to invest any more in Osi when things have turned as sour as they've been. Is it JPP's time to shine? I'm scanning the WW for a stud DL on my fantasy team and its hard to ignore his line from last week.
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So is JPP ready to bust out? Saw him a little during the game and he looked like a real physical presence. My understanding was he would probably be a little bit of a project and that it would take a lot of refining before he would be able to use his impressive tools to dominate consistently.

What's going to happen when both Osi and Tuck get back? Will he still start? I can't imagine your organization would want to invest any more in Osi when things have turned as sour as they've been. Is it JPP's time to shine? I'm scanning the WW for a stud DL on my fantasy team and its hard to ignore his line from last week.
Yeah, JPP's done nothing but impress with his ability to impact the game despite his rawness since he was drafted. Kid's a beast and I think he'll keep starting opposite Tuck at least for the first few weeks Osi's back.
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So is JPP ready to bust out? Saw him a little during the game and he looked like a real physical presence. My understanding was he would probably be a little bit of a project and that it would take a lot of refining before he would be able to use his impressive tools to dominate consistently.

What's going to happen when both Osi and Tuck get back? Will he still start? I can't imagine your organization would want to invest any more in Osi when things have turned as sour as they've been. Is it JPP's time to shine? I'm scanning the WW for a stud DL on my fantasy team and its hard to ignore his line from last week.
Yeah 2 sacks and FF in the first game of the season.. So very happy with that production. I think all giants fans are very interested in this pick AND with his potential. If all goes well he can be something special.

He was a raw player but people tend to forget if a raw DE is going to have a chance to learn and grow our team is the best. You have Tuck, Osi, Kiwi to learn from. Tuck and Osi learned from Strahan. So when it comes to DE and spotting talent, I think our franchise should be # 1 on that list.

Let's put it this way, when we draft a DE, other teams should worry because we tend to see talent for that position, I guess clearly. Our guys are productive and pro bowlers.

We will rotate the guys when they come back and in 3rd down situations the plan was 4 aces package..

Osi-Tuck-Kiwi-JPP or Osi-Canty-Tuck-JPP

Either way, there will be a lot of sick talent rushing and that's without the blitz being factored in. This is just 4 DL players coming your way.
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I was kidding. kinda. It would be so awesome to have a giants stokley jersey. but only if i like, could get one for $5 haha.
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I was kidding. kinda. It would be so awesome to have a giants stokley jersey. but only if i like, could get one for $5 haha.
Convert your old Shockey jersey into one. Only a few letter changes.
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I'm so pissed I don't get NFL Network and I can't watch the Belichick documentary.
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I also love how Bill is rocking the Rutgers sweatshirt.
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When is it on?
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It was on last night. It was the highest rated non football game ever on the network.
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I'll have to DVR. I'm sure they will replay it a ton.
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That doesn't help me one bit.

I wonder if he would really come back here.
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Am I the only Giants fan who hates Bill B. then? I know he was great with us, but damn if he isn't the most annoying, douchiest (and not to mention a cheater) coach in the league. Can't stand him even the slightest.
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Watch that video that NYG posted. Not one hint of douchyness.
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Meh, actions speak louder than words and his tenure with the Patriots has been riddled with douchiness.
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Well I disagree. He's a NFL Football coach so being a douche is probably a good thing. I think the cheating thing was also way overblown.
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It's only cheating if you get caught. It's kind of like baseball. Are only the people who got caught doing steroids, the only ones who did it? Of course not. I feel like Bill isn't the only one who did that stuff.
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Just reading the BBI reactions to drafting JPP. Now that's a funny read. I can't believe how many people hated the pick, including myself. lol. Some of the reactions were funny though!
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It's only cheating if you get caught. It's kind of like baseball. Are only the people who got caught doing steroids, the only ones who did it? Of course not. I feel like Bill isn't the only one who did that stuff.
I'm sure you're right, but I've never really believed in the attitude of, "Well everyone else is doing it so that makes it fine," especially when not everyone has been proven to do it.
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Just reading the BBI reactions to drafting JPP. Now that's a funny read. I can't believe how many people hated the pick, including myself. lol. Some of the reactions were funny though!
As someone who was *extremely* down on JPP before the 2010 draft, what I don't understand about his emergence as a quality NFL player is:

a.) He looked really bad playing for USF. In the videos I watched, he was overrunning plays, being knocked to the ground with easy, and looking generally like nothing more than a bull in a china shop. I didn't even see him apply much pressure. Most of his "plays" involved him batting down balls with his long arms.

b.) He was absolutely terrible at the combine drills. Typically, the elite pass rushers, throughout recent NFL history, have excelled at either the Vertical Jump/Broad Jump or the Short Shuttle. JPP was terrible at every one of these drills. The only drill he did well was the 40 yard dash.

JPP bucked all of the recent trends regarding pass rushers in combine drills and also bucked the trend of one-year-wonders with poor game tape struggling in the NFL.
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you know... we did produce three elite DE's during the last 15 years...

1.Strahan
2. Osi
3. Tuck

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