Players that Scott Wright Overrated

[Caulibflower]

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

Who thinks Bush will EVER rush for 1000 yards in a season, or catch 85 balls and/or 800 yards???

He's beyond a disappointment and IMO no one saw it coming.

Well, he did catch 88 for 742 his rookie season, but he hasn't come close to that since. That was pretty effective play. But he's regressed since then, and overall just been remarkably bad at taking handoffs. With the exception of 2009, he's been consistently below average in yards per carry.

[CheechHarvin12]

That's maybe the biggest disappointment with Bush...His catches have gone down consistently every year. Some of that is injury, for sure, but that has kept him from an even bigger impact than he has had. If he had kept catches up in the range of the 88 he had year one, things would seem different, most likely. I do remember certain draftniks just before the draft saying that Reggie Bush could have been a late first round pick as just a WR....maybe if he had been used as such from day one, he might have put up better numbers.

[PossibleCabbage]

Originally Posted by billsfootball15

listen, we can all say what we want about the Bush thing, and Ive read everything so far and we can say all we want, but theres one thing that matters…he contributed (small or large role is up to you to decide, but nontheless still had a role) in the helping the Saints win the Super Bowl. Thats all that matters, he was there and he played a part, he doesn't have to be Barry Sanders and in fact he isn't because his team won a championship, something Barry regardless of how good he was could never do. Would the Saints do the pick over again? I think they would say no because they are content with the threat Bush provides and he now has a ring to show for it.

Justin Harrell contributed to the Packers recent superbowl season, are we to conclude that he is therefore not a bust?

Winning a superbowl does not absolve everybody on the roster.

[Ghost of Juice]

Originally Posted by billsfootball15

listen, we can all say what we want about the Bush thing, and Ive read everything so far and we can say all we want, but theres one thing that matters…he contributed (small or large role is up to you to decide, but nontheless still had a role) in the helping the Saints win the Super Bowl. Thats all that matters, he was there and he played a part, he doesn't have to be Barry Sanders and in fact he isn't because his team won a championship, something Barry regardless of how good he was could never do. Would the Saints do the pick over again? I think they would say no because they are content with the threat Bush provides and he now has a ring to show for it.

So you're saying if the saints could redo their number 2 overall pick knowing what they know about the players in that draft they would still take bush? Because that would be crazy of them to do that and pass on a player like Haloti Ngata or MJD.

[yourfavestoner]

Originally Posted by Ghost of Juice

So you're saying if the saints could redo their number 2 overall pick knowing what they know about the players in that draft they would still take bush? Because that would be crazy of them to do that and pass on a player like Haloti Ngata or MJD.

I love your username so ******* much.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I remember thinking Brady Quinn was the next Tom Brady. I don't think I ever was THAT wrong about a qb prospect ever.

In your defense, and Scott's, I truly believe that had Quinn gone to the right situation, he could have turned into a good NFL QB by now, and I hate Notre Dame and never liked Quinn.

Sometimes a QB can be on a dead team and look crappy for years.... see Steve Young in Tampa, Kurt Warner in New York off the top of my head. Doesn't mean they were bad QBs.

I wonder if there's a situation for Quinn out there right now. Matt Leinart too.
He actually looked decent his rookie year, I clearly remember, despite that less-than-strong southpaw arm.

[MidwayMonster31]

I think Denny Green getting fired really screwed Leinart. He was drafted for a west coast offense and looked pretty solid as a rookie. Wisenhunt wanted a different offense and Leinart couldn't cut it afterwards.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by MidwayMonster31

I think Denny Green getting fired really screwed Leinart. He was drafted for a west coast offense and looked pretty solid as a rookie. Wisenhunt wanted a different offense and Leinart couldn't cut it afterwards.

I am still curious how things would have turned out had the Titans taken Leinart. I wonder if having Norm Chow as his OC would have made things different.

[ElectricEye]

It could. Little things like that, especially at the start of guys careers can make or break them. Leinart's problem has always been his dedication to the game and not being a douche bag, so it might not have mattered much.

[TACKLE]

Originally Posted by ElectricEye

It could. Little things like that, especially at the start of guys careers can make or break them. Leinart's problem has always been his dedication to the game and not being a douche bag, so it might not have mattered much.

Obviously this is hindsight, but he was a below average/marginal physical talent who lacked mental toughness and a strong work ethic. He couldn't get it done with Fitz and Boldin so I doubt he could of gotten it done with the poor WR core Tennessee had. Leinart just wasn't very good. I doubt he would of had much success regardless of where he went.

[katnip]

About Reggie Bush - I don't think he's a major bust. But I saw it coming, him not being a good even dominant NFL RB.

One thing that helped me with that was, when he wanted his USC #5 in the NFL

[SRK85]

Lol at the Bush bashing. Come on he was a one dimensional player, pure speed. He could never compete on the NFL level at the ability everyone expected him to. In fact I was happy to see the Texans pass on him.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by MidwayMonster31

I think Denny Green getting fired really screwed Leinart. He was drafted for a west coast offense and looked pretty solid as a rookie. Wisenhunt wanted a different offense and Leinart couldn't cut it afterwards.

Good points. I know Leinart is a prick and not rocket-armed or anything, and I don't like him either, but other jerks and other QBs with minimal arms have succeeded just fine in the NFL.

I think losing the Sherriff did hurt Matt Leinart. Still, I have no sympathy for the idiot because he should have come out after his junior year.

Also, I continue to LOL at the Reggie Bush-bashers!
Every single other team would secretly love to have a weapon like Bush, even if he's not a 250-carry guy.

[PossibleCabbage]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Every single other team would secretly love to have a weapon like Bush, even if he's not a 250-carry guy.

Every team in the league would like to have a kicker who makes 65% of his kicks from 50+, doesn't mean you should pick that guy in the first round.

[J255979-11nine]

Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage

Every team in the league would like to have a kicker who makes 65% of his kicks from 50+, doesn't mean you should pick that guy in the first round.

[J-Mike88]

Right, neither the Saints or Raiders (SeBas) seem to regret their pick.

[PossibleCabbage]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Right, neither the Saints or Raiders (SeBas) seem to regret their pick.

Just because you don't regret a pick, doesn't mean that a player is a disappointment. If you gave the Saints the chance to redo the 2006 draft with perfect knowledge of the future as it unfolded when they took Bush, I really doubt that they would take him again at #2.

Bust? No. Bush is a useful player. Disappointing and seriously overrated as a prospect by almost everybody in the business? Absolutely.

"Is useful" and "other teams would like him" are a useful test for evaluating whether a prospect lived up to expectations, but it's far from definitive. How many teams, seriously, do you think would have taken Bush if they held the #2 pick and could see how things turned out in our timeline?

[flave1969]

So as far as I can see in 6 pages of thread, folks have managed to pick out about 5 - 10 players tops. Out of the 1000 plus players picked in the life of this board it is pretty good.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Right, neither the Saints or Raiders (SeBas) seem to regret their pick.

based on what, exactly?

[PossibleCabbage]

Originally Posted by flave1969

So as far as I can see in 6 pages of thread, folks have managed to pick out about 5 - 10 players tops. Out of the 1000 plus players picked in the life of this board it is pretty good.

I don't think anybody is really all that interested in doing an exhaustive list, to be honest.

I mean, does anybody really care that Scott had Kellen Winslow Jr., Roy Williams, Robert Gallery, Reggie Williams, Mike Williams, and DeAngelo Hall in his top 10 in 2004? None of those guys worked out for the team that drafted him.

That Aaron Gibson (ranked #9 in 1999)? Hell of a (five-year) career. Maybe he's good in Arena Ball, but back then this site used to be called NFLdraftcountdown.com and not AFLdraftcountdown.com.

Everybody misses on guys like this all the time. It's no big deal.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by njx9

based on what, exactly?

What?
The Raiders don't regret picking SeBas obviously, and the Saints have made sure they have kept Bush now thru 4 years when real busts are sent packing well before then.
Again, LOL at anyone who calls Reggie Bush a bust.
I can find many many #2 picks over the past 2 decades who's body of work makes Bush's body of work thru 4-years look HOF worthy.

[A Perfect Score]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

What?
The Raiders don't regret picking SeBas obviously, and the Saints have made sure they have kept Bush now thru 4 years when real busts are sent packing well before then.
Again, LOL at anyone who calls Reggie Bush a bust.
I can find many many #2 picks over the past 2 decades who's body of work makes Bush's body of work thru 4-years look HOF worthy.

So you don't think the Raiders regret passing on Chad Pennington, Keith Bullock or Shaun Alexander for a kicker?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Originally Posted by A Perfect Score

So you don't think the Raiders regret passing on Chad Pennington, Keith Bulluck or Shaun Alexander for a kicker?

The misspelling of this name has haunted me for years. It even happened in local papers for some obscene reason so I can't get mad at you too much.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

What?
The Raiders don't regret picking SeBas obviously

again, based on what? you have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of what the raiders think about taking janikowski with the 17th overall pick. none. and yet you keep stating this like it's fact. you have no idea whether or not the saints regret taking bush, and him being resigned is NOT in any way, shape or form evidence that they're happy they did. it's like saying, "well, they re-signed drew brees, so they must not have wanted darelle revis".

[bearsfan_51]

Originally Posted by A Perfect Score

So you don't think the Raiders regret passing on Chad Pennington, Keith Bullock or Shaun Alexander for a kicker?

By that logic, 98% of all draft picks are dissapointments.