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Alan Faneca Holdout?
ALan Faneca may hold out.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07080/771176-66.stm
I think with the redick contracts guards are getting the (the Steve Hutchinson effect) The steelers won't be able to resign this guy.
I think the Steelers should just trade him and get some value.
What would the value be? I think for a bad team that is desperate they could give a second rounder.
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03-22-2007, 07:39 AM
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Guards don't get much value. A 4th would be the highest you could get.
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03-22-2007, 08:05 AM
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Maybe the Cards will trade for him if he really wants out.
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03-22-2007, 08:12 AM
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03-22-2007, 08:19 AM
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Guards don't get much value. A 4th would be the highest you could get.
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That was true a couple of years ago but with the huge salaries there getting teams obviously value them more.
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03-22-2007, 08:39 AM
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Trade him to Cleveland... Mmmmmm
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03-22-2007, 08:45 AM
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Trade him to Cleveland... Mmmmmm
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Mmm.... knee injuries are finger licking good.
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03-22-2007, 09:23 AM
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I'm sure my Raiders will take him off your hands...lord knows we need decent OL....
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03-22-2007, 09:36 AM
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Yeah we'll give them Robert Gallery and a 5th staright up lol.
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03-22-2007, 09:36 AM
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Mmm.... knee injuries are finger licking good.
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Lol, you deliver every time.
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03-22-2007, 11:15 AM
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He's going to the Cards for a third rounder folks. We've got the Grimm.
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Mmm.... knee injuries are finger licking good.
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HA HA! that was great
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I could see him in arizona for a second or a third I agree. But I don't think the steelers have the balls to trade him
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03-22-2007, 12:41 PM
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HA HA! that was great
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Holly cow I just got it.....hes refering to the Browns Knee injuries of late like 1 million other poster have done previously!!!!!!!! How original.
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03-22-2007, 12:43 PM
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Would you rather have him bring up the Drive or the Fumble or Craig Ehlo getting destroyed by Micheal Jordan
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03-22-2007, 01:12 PM
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Guards don't get much value. A 4th would be the highest you could get.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He's made SIX straight pro bowls! He's worth a first plus another first day pick based on games played and pro bowl performance next year. The Bears are in need of a OG. Maybe their first or Mark Anderson and a conditional pick next year.
A 4th? Really! Would you of traded Will Shields when he was 30 for a 4th?
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03-22-2007, 01:28 PM
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He is 30 years old. A first rounder for a 30 year old OG? Not happening. I can't see someone giving up anymore than a 3rd.
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03-22-2007, 01:30 PM
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He's made SIX straight pro bowls! He's worth a first plus another first day pick based on games played and pro bowl performance next year. The Bears are in need of a OG. Maybe their first or Mark Anderson and a conditional pick next year.
A 4th? Really! Would you of traded Will Shields when he was 30 for a 4th?
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Yeah, but that's just it, he's 30 and a guard. Sure, I'd give a early third for him, but would a NFL team? Keep in mind he's holding out, so his value goes down even more.
With Grimm and Whisenhunt, I'm sure the Cardinals will look into it.
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#1--Russell I can't be too disappointed in this pick because he is, realistically, a huge upgrade (in the same way that the Great Wall of China would be a huge upgrade over the fence in my backyard) over Andrew Walter.
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03-22-2007, 01:36 PM
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He's a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Definatley not a first becuase of his age and not a 4th because of his abilities. That and they can't afford to re-sign him so they aren't the ones taht can really do the demanding. Though he is one of the top tier offensive guards so I wouldn't be surprised if he not only gets a huge contract, but if he also gets traded for a decent pick.
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03-22-2007, 02:09 PM
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Holly cow I just got it.....hes refering to the Browns Knee injuries of late like 1 million other poster have done previously!!!!!!!! How original.
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The sad part is, I'm willing to believe it actually took you four hours to get it.
Stop being so bitter, it makes it seem like you looked down your pants recently and suddenly felt the urge to compensate for something.
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03-22-2007, 02:17 PM
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He's 30. Not 35. He has five good years left of a proven commodity. If you draft Ben Grubbs in the first what's to say he's not just a bust that never sees the field. Faneca you know you are going to get a pro bowl performance from. If the Cards would trade their early second round pick and either a player or a conditional draft pick I'd say that would be fair. But a third or fourth! Screw that we'll get a third for him as a compensatory pick when he signs his NFL record deal for a guard!
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03-22-2007, 02:21 PM
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Faneca is NOT worth a 1st. Come on now.
He's 30, and for NFL standards thats a old. Grubbs is worth a late 1st because he has roughly 8 years on Faneca. Thats 8 more years of production.
Faneca is a great player, but don't be like the typical Steelers homer that says things like Hines Ward should be in the HOF because he can block, or how Ben Roethlisberger is the big 11111!. Im not saying this in a negative way directly at you, rather giving you words of advice.
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03-22-2007, 02:28 PM
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Faneca is NOT worth a 1st. Come on now.
He's 30, and for NFL standards thats a old. Grubbs is worth a late 1st because he has roughly 8 years on Faneca. Thats 8 more years of production.
Faneca is a great player, but don't be like the typical Steelers homer that says things like Hines Ward should be in the HOF because he can block, or how Ben Roethlisberger is the big 11111!. Im not saying this in a negative way directly at you, rather giving you words of advice.
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Or LT made Tom Jackson pee his pants just by looking at him.
He has five good years left! The next contract he signs will be his last. But who is to say Ben Grubbs first contract for whoever drafts him isn't his last?
Would you not trade a late first for Steve Hutchinson?
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03-22-2007, 02:31 PM
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Or LT made Tom Jackson pee his pants just by looking at him.
He has five good years left! The next contract he signs will be his last. But who is to say Ben Grubbs first contract for whoever drafts him isn't his last?
Would you not trade a late first for Steve Hutchinson?
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The LT thing actually happened.
No, I wouldn't. Not in this draft. This draft is stacked with talented OGs, and why should I give up a 1st for an OG at the latter end of his career when I can easily find a young talented OG that I can potentially have on my roster for much longer? Doesn't make sense.
Hutch is great, don't get me wrong. But its always better to go youth movement. Every GM in the league will tell you that.
If the Steelers couldve gotten a 1st for Faneca, he wouldve been out the door along time ago.
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03-22-2007, 02:36 PM
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I could see a 2nd to a win now team.
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