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Old 04-25-2012, 09:52 PM    (permalink
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Charley Casserly of CBS Sports and NFL Network is reporting that the left tackle-needy Buffalo Bills “would like to trade up” to draft USC’s Matt Kalil, and are willing to surrender a second-round pick to close the deal.

While it’s sensible that the Bills would target a left tackle, the approach in Casserly’s report hints that Buffalo believes itself to be one player away from serious playoff, even Super Bowl contention. Most observers would probably disagree with that notion. But if G.M. Buddy Nix has identified Kalil as a truly elite, franchise-caliber left tackle capable of making quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick better, there shouldn’t be anyone trying to stop him.

While the old draft trade chart is admittedly outdated, it’s at least worth a look here. Per the old chart, Buffalo’s Nos. 10 and 41 overall picks equate to 1,790 “points.” The third overall pick is worth 2,200 points, and No. 4′s value is 1,800 points. So the Bills could get just shy of the fourth pick based on the old points system.
I wouldn't like a trade down that far for only a second, but Buffalo's 1, 2, and next year's one would be worth 2280 according to the chart. If they offered that, I'd be tempted.
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I wouldn't like a trade down that far for only a second, but Buffalo's 1, 2, and next year's one would be worth 2280 according to the chart. If they offered that, I'd be tempted.
If they gave up their 1st, 2nd and next years 1.. I would take that and gladly drop down to 10 and then take Floyd, Gilmore, Kuechly, or Barron. We have so many holes as a team right now we need to trade down and get as many picks as possible. I really hope we can trade down with at least the Bucs and at least pick up an extra third.
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Did anyone see the simulation on NFL Live today? It was pretty cool.
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Did anyone see the simulation on NFL Live today? It was pretty cool.
I saw it. I liked the outcome. I like the idea of trading down with the bucs. With that, we're still almost guaranteed that we get either Claiborne or Kalil. Plus we pick up a few extra picks.
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Countdown is on! I hope to god we can move down to 5.
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That'd be cool, but man we just need to take Kalil and not **** this up. All these rumors are making me nervous.
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That'd be cool, but man we just need to take Kalil and not **** this up. All these rumors are making me nervous.
They've been making me nervous for a while. More so because I think Spielman looks like an idiot. If we take Kalil I'm happy. If we take Claiborne I'll be ok with it as well. If we take Blackmon I'll be upset.
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They've been making me nervous for a while. More so because I think Spielman looks like an idiot. If we take Kalil I'm happy. If we take Claiborne I'll be ok with it as well. If we take Blackmon I'll be upset.
I agree. This draft is pretty deep with quality WRs. Lets save it our later picks and just take Kalil/Claiborne with our first pick.
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I agree. This draft is pretty deep with quality WRs. Lets save it our later picks and just take Kalil/Claiborne with our first pick.
I'm a big Marvin Jones fan in the middle. So hopefully we dont **** it up. Cmon Spielman...
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Casserly on NFL Network said both Cleveland and Tampa Bay have talked with Minnesota about moving up for Trent Richardson. Not sure what they'd gain, but that would be best case scenario IMO. Move down, grab a pick or two and still get either Kalil or Claiborne. We'll see if that happens.
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Casserly on NFL Network said both Cleveland and Tampa Bay have talked with Minnesota about moving up for Trent Richardson. Not sure what they'd gain, but that would be best case scenario IMO. Move down, grab a pick or two and still get either Kalil or Claiborne. We'll see if that happens.
This is best case for Minnesota by far. Even if we just get a 3rd.
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I hope to god I'm wrong, but I just have a feeling that we won't take Kalil.
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Report: Claiborne is No. 1 player on Vikings draft board

Posted by Evan Silva on April 26, 2012, 4:09 PM EDT

Citing a source with knowledge of the situation, NFL Network’s Steve Wyche reports that LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne is the No. 1 player on the Vikings’ draft board, and they are “leaning toward” drafting Claiborne with the No. 3 overall pick.

Per Wyche, the Vikings also “like [Claiborne] more” than USC tackle Matt Kalil.

Appearing on ESPN’s NFL Draft Special Thursday, Adam Schefter seemed to agree with the notion that Claiborne is the favorite to be drafted with the third overall pick.

“There seems to be a feeling that they might be leaning toward Morris Claiborne while still considering Matt Kalil,” Schefter said.

The Vikings’ priority remains trading down, but if they stick to their draft board, Claiborne will be the third pick in the draft and a mini-slide could be in order for this year’s top-rated offensive tackle.



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with the fragile chad pennington, sorry, christian ponder, at qb, i'm not very happy with this, but when have the vikes ever done anything to protect their qb?
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I'm not going to complain either way we go. I will be ecstatic with either Kalil or Claiborne. Both will be great improvements. Here's to a franchise-changing draft.


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Love that trade. Got some extra picks for nothing. Great move Spielman.
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Report is the Browns gave up 4, 5, and 7 to move up a spot.

Basically got free picks, but I was hoping for more. Figure we could have gotten at least a 3 got of Tampa, maybe even a 2. Maybe Tampa wasn't looking to trade up?
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Kalil!

I would have been OK with Claiborne, but Kalil was my number 1 choice.
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So ******* happy with this draft so far. Getting Kalil plus several picks is about as good as it can get.
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Absolutely loving Speilman right now. Beautiful start.
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Everyone had been criticizing him the past couple days, but he's coming out like a genius. Everything he did worked out perfectly.
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Rick Spielman has made another move, Harrison Smtih is the pick. I like the pick, maybe higher than expected but the need is unquestioned.
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He's done a great job so far. I'm not a huge fan of Smith this high, but I do like him quite a bit, and it's not like we gave up a whole lot to get him, combining that deal with the Cleveland one all we did was move down in the 4th and pick up a 5th and 7th. All this while filling our biggest needs, OT and DB.
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i'm definitely happy tonight
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Happy... Can't help but feel like we gave away a valuable pick to take Smith half a dozen slots higher than we could have anyway but can't fault that as we need a safety in the worst possible way and Smith is solid.

We nailed the Kalil move, we have so many holes that all those extra picks should produce starters if used well.

First time we've got out of round 1 in a while that has felt good to me which is a nice feeling, now I know how Steelers fans feel every single year...
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I'm definitely going to bed happy tonight haha. That trade with Cleveland was great by Spielman. We got our franchise LT for the next 15 years. Then we got a Safety that we have needed for years too. Can't wait to see what we do now in the 3rd round. Hopefully a WR falls to us like a Quick. When we traded up i thought we were going with Stephen Hill. We have 10 picks in the next two days, we could easily pull the trigger and move up again.
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