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Old 04-08-2012, 07:32 PM    (permalink
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Where did you see that? I wouldn't hate that, but I'd prefer several other guys over him. I would like to see us finally addressing the safety position, though.
My thoughts exactly... depends on how the board falls, but if we did take him there I would be ok with the pick.
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Where did you see that? I wouldn't hate that, but I'd prefer several other guys over him. I would like to see us finally addressing the safety position, though.
Read it on rotoworld earlier.
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I wouldn't mind him being the 35th pick. I almost put him as our 2nd round pick but I'm really hoping for Alshon Jeffery more. Minnifield I think is almost a certain for us for some reason. He fits us so well and Ive heard him connected with the Vikings for a while now. Reminds me of 2010 when the vikings were tagged with Chris Cook all the time.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:07 AM    (permalink
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I wouldn't mind him being the 35th pick. I almost put him as our 2nd round pick but I'm really hoping for Alshon Jeffery more. Minnifield I think is almost a certain for us for some reason. He fits us so well and Ive heard him connected with the Vikings for a while now. Reminds me of 2010 when the vikings were tagged with Chris Cook all the time.
Personally I think Casey Hayward is just as good, if not a better, fit for us, and I like him quite a bit more than Minnifield. Hayward gets my vote as one of the most underrated players in this draft. The one problem is that he isn't great in man, which is what gets you drafted high in the NFL now, but he can play it and is one hell of a zone corner. His ball skills may be as good as any corner in this class, including the Claiborne and Jenkins. With all of this being said, if Hayward is there in the 3rd I sure as hell hope we take him. Minnifield however, I'm not nearly as high on. I see him as being a nickel corner and not really a starting option going forward. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but with as deep as this CB class is, I'd hope we can get a future starter in the 3rd to take Winfield's spot when he's done as he said he only plans on playing 2 more years, which would take him to the end of his contract.
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How would you guys feel about this: Bill Polian advocates Vikings-Dolphins trade

The entire article is insider, so you'd need a subscription, but basically Polian says that he thinks the Dolphins should trade their 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up from 8 to 3 for Tannehill. That would give us 8, 35, 42, 66, 72, 98, 128comp, 134comp, 138, 175, 210, and 223. We wouldn't land an elite player at 8, but could still get a really high quality player and then with all those 2nd, 3rd, and 4ths we could get several more starters and potential starters and it would also give us more ammo to move up for guys falling, etc.

I'd be upset about not landing Kalil or Claiborne, but if we were to hit on those 2nds, 3rds, and 4ths, then we'd be way ahead in our rebuilding process.
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How would you guys feel about this: Bill Polian advocates Vikings-Dolphins trade

The entire article is insider, so you'd need a subscription, but basically Polian says that he thinks the Dolphins should trade their 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up from 8 to 3 for Tannehill. That would give us 8, 35, 42, 66, 72, 98, 128comp, 134comp, 138, 175, 210, and 223. We wouldn't land an elite player at 8, but could still get a really high quality player and then with all those 2nd, 3rd, and 4ths we could get several more starters and potential starters and it would also give us more ammo to move up for guys falling, etc.

I'd be upset about not landing Kalil or Claiborne, but if we were to hit on those 2nds, 3rds, and 4ths, then we'd be way ahead in our rebuilding process.
I wouldn't mind it either but I just don't see the Dolphins trading up to get Tannehill. The Browns don't seem interested in him so he would just slide to the Dolphins. But if this were to occur, I would be all for it. Sure we would miss out on Kalil and Claiborne but we could still end up with Rieff, Floyd, Blackmon at 8 and then in the 2nd we could address the 2 other needs that we didnt take in the 1st round. Never know who would be there at 8 but I just don't see this happening.
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Kalil, Jeffery and Minnifield would be sooooo nice.
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As for the Miami trade, I don't like it. I don't mind trading down but I think we should get more than a mid 2nd and 3rd. We are losing out on an ELITE LT and missing out on the other top guys as well.
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The question Spielman would have to answer is who does he take with all of those extra picks to play LT. There is just not enough quality LT prospects. They would have to take Reiff at 8 just because whoever they'd get later couldn't come in a play from day 1, and Charlie Johnson should not be given one more snap as our starting LT. I'd be much happier staying at 3, getting Kalil, then addressing other needs later in the draft, with the CB and WR depth being far better.
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Adam Schefter was on one of the shows saying he really believes that the Vikings pass on Kalil even @ 3. Personally I dont like the idea at all, if we stay at 3 I think Kalil has to be the pick, thoughts?
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Adam Schefter was on one of the shows saying he really believes that the Vikings pass on Kalil even @ 3. Personally I dont like the idea at all, if we stay at 3 I think Kalil has to be the pick, thoughts?
IMHO, the only acceptable picks at 3 are Kalil, Claiborne, and Blackmon (in that order).

I'd much, much, MUCH rather have Kalil than the other 2 but given the Vikings recent record on first round picks, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt if they go with Claiborne or Blackmon.
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I'm a Ravens fan, but I'm running the Vikings in broth's forum mock. Tell me what you guys think.
I traded #3 to Arizona for 13, 80, and a 2013 2nd.
I ended up getting Reiff at 13 and I traded 35 and 80 and a 2013 3rd for 20
I ended up receiving Stephon Gilmore there. This gives you guys bargaining chips for next year as well as allowed me to hold onto pick 66 for this year.

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Making next year's draft: 1st, 2nd, AZ 2nd. I think since I did this for specific players that I did well, but in real life this would be awful. What say you Viking Nation?
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I traded #3 to Arizona for 13, 80, and a 2013 2nd.
I ended up getting Reiff at 13 and I traded 35 and 80 and a 2013 3rd for 20
I ended up receiving Stephon Gilmore there. This gives you guys bargaining chips for next year as well as allowed me to hold onto pick 66 for this year.

Results thus far:
Reiff
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Making next year's draft: 1st, 2nd, AZ 2nd. I think since I did this for specific players that I did well, but in real life this would be awful. What say you Viking Nation?
I would be good with those picks, but you should have gotten way more for 3 than a 3rd and 2nd next year. That's just a terrible haul to move down 10 picks.
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Ya, getting Reiff and Gilmore is a good first round for sure, but like Marshallb said, not getting more for pick #3 is a bad trade down.
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I'm a Ravens fan, but I'm running the Vikings in broth's forum mock. Tell me what you guys think.
I traded #3 to Arizona for 13, 80, and a 2013 2nd.
I ended up getting Reiff at 13 and I traded 35 and 80 and a 2013 3rd for 20
I ended up receiving Stephon Gilmore there. This gives you guys bargaining chips for next year as well as allowed me to hold onto pick 66 for this year.

Results thus far:
Reiff
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66

Making next year's draft: 1st, 2nd, AZ 2nd. I think since I did this for specific players that I did well, but in real life this would be awful. What say you Viking Nation?
Absolutely robbed on your trade down. You should have gotten a 2nd and 3rd for going to 8. To 13, there should have probably been a third and future first.
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I'm just not sure how much we would be able to get in a trade down. If Cleveland's the only team that's willing to take Tannehill that high, then we're screwed in that regard. Either way, we better come out of this draft with a haul and a half.
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I would have gotten more, it's just that there's a five minute clock and pre-draft trade negotiations were hard to submit. I anticipated having more time than I did. I'm going to draft a WR at 66. Hopefully Jeffery just takes a free fall, but in case that doesn't happen who should I target in the early third?
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Too early to tell. A WR, safety, DT, or OLB would be good. Looking at that draft though you really ****** up lol.
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Too early to tell. A WR, safety, DT, or OLB would be good. Looking at that draft though you really ****** up lol.
I mean I see why you may say that just because the value I gave up, but I really wanted to draft those guys and think they would be awesome for you. I think Gilmore is the most talented corner in the draft and there are guys I like in later rounds who at those positions. I would have gone Kalil, but if I could trade down and get Reiff then I think I would really do it. I'm really bummed that I couldn't really read trade negotiations before the draft or I'd be rolling in picks.
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I mean I see why you may say that just because the value I gave up, but I really wanted to draft those guys and think they would be awesome for you. I think Gilmore is the most talented corner in the draft and there are guys I like in later rounds who at those positions. I would have gone Kalil, but if I could trade down and get Reiff then I think I would really do it. I'm really bummed that I couldn't really read trade negotiations before the draft or I'd be rolling in picks.
I don't mind trading down and grabbing Reiff, but Kalil>>>Reiff + mid 3rd and a 2013 2nd. If you could have gotten anywhere close to solid value for that pick, none of us would have had a problem with it at all and would have been cool with it. Hell, you gave up damn near as much to move up for Gilmore as you got to move down from 3 to 13.
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Where do you guys stand on Janoris Jenkins? Personally I love his talent at 35, but the thought of him and Chris Cook scares the hell outta me. I'm completely torn. What are the chances hes even on our board?
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I don't think we'd take Jenkins, although I would love it if we did take him. With all of the run-ins with the law that we've had the past few years, they've gotta be careful, and they've said that they're going to make it a priority to clean things up.
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With the draft a week away my dream first four rounds look like this:
1st - Matt Kalil -- OT -- USC
2nd - Janoris Jenkins -- CB -- North Alabama
3rd - Marvin Jones -- WR -- California
4th - Chase Minnifield -- CB -- Virginia
4th - Travis Lewis -- LB -- Oklahoma
4th - Ryan Broyles -- WR -- Oklahoma

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With the draft a week away my dream first four rounds look like this:
1st - Matt Kalil -- OT -- USC
2nd - Janoris Jenkins -- CB -- North Alabama
3rd - Marvin Jones -- WR -- California
4th - Chase Minnifield -- CB -- Virginia
4th - Travis Lewis -- LB -- Oklahoma
4th - Ryan Broyles -- WR -- Oklahoma

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Personally, I'd rather see a S in there, probably instead of Minnifield. Winfield still has a couple years left and Cook will be back, on top of that, both Bowman and Carr who we just signed can be solid nickel/depth guys for the short term. I'd probably also rather go with a DT than Broyles. Probably someone like Mike Martin. I also prefer several other WR in that 3rd than Jones, but that's just personal opinion. I'd still be very happy if the draft played out that way, but I doubt that the draft would go this well for us.
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There's a rumor floating around that the Vikes are really interested in Jeffery at 35. I would love to grab Kalil and Jeffery and I think they could go a long way in aiding Ponder's development.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7441/alshon-jeffery
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