If Aaron Rodgers Successfully defends the title... - Page 8

tjsunstein · 10-09-2011, 06:56 PM

Never saw this thread before...

I wouldn't start a franchise with any other player right now.

yo123 · 10-09-2011, 07:00 PM

I cannot believe no is beating yes. Winning two consecutive Super Bowls? At this stage in your career? And just watch him play QB, I've never been more impressed just watching a QB make throws.

ImBrotherCain · 10-09-2011, 07:11 PM

I voted no in this 5 months ago... Even as a Packer fan. I think the man is a beast and if the Pack wins another it will be on his shoulders but to me winning Super Bowls does not make you the best QB in the league. It stems back to the age old argument whether a player should be judged on how many Super Bowls they won.

The man looks inhuman at times and I rate him and Brady as the top two QBs in the league but "The Best QB in the League" is such an subjective title. I don't see enough between Brady and Rodgers to really claim one as the best.

Now with that said if Rodgers can keep this level of play up all season and at a similar level over the next few seasons. I don't see how he couldn't earn that decree as Brady enters his decline.

soybean · 10-09-2011, 07:12 PM

Right now it goes:

1. Rodgers
2. Brady

You can be a raging Pats homer and talk about Brady's stats and projected stats but Rodgers smokes every qb in the eyeball test. He looks like varsity vs. jv out there.

MetSox17 · 10-09-2011, 07:15 PM

Yeah, winning back to back championships in this league, he definitely has to be considered the best in the game.

The only argument you could make for Brady (one more ring) would be completely irrelevant. Rodgers is already better at everything, he just needs to win another title.

jack1077 · 10-10-2011, 02:16 AM

Had Rodgers rated ahead of Brady when this thread was created, now feel like a major Bawse. Also still think that if Peyton was playing he would be No.1.

soybean · 10-24-2011, 09:54 PM

Is there any doubt about the MVP this year?

We're witnessing one of the all time greats at the peak of his career.

wogitalia · 10-24-2011, 10:11 PM

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Now with that said if Rodgers can keep this level of play up all season and at a similar level over the next few seasons. I don't see how he couldn't earn that decree as Brady enters his decline.

I know you are trying to temper expectations and all, but if he keeps playing like he has for the last season and a half for a few more years then he isn't going to be pushing for discussions of being the best QB in the league, he will be creating the hype for the best ever.

Quite simply he is on another level right now, even from Brady, which is scary!

Still feels good that we had the pleasure of drafting and cutting Erasmus and Troy instead of him...

SickwithIt1010 · 10-24-2011, 10:13 PM

Been saying this since the playoffs last year and people called me stupid...

ImBrotherCain · 10-24-2011, 10:28 PM

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I know you are trying to temper expectations and all, but if he keeps playing like he has for the last season and a half for a few more years then he isn't going to be pushing for discussions of being the best QB in the league, he will be creating the hype for the best ever.

Quite simply he is on another level right now, even from Brady, which is scary!

Still feels good that we had the pleasure of drafting and cutting Erasmus and Troy instead of him...

Well you have to keep yourself on an even keel... You never know when any play could be your last. I agree the man is playing on a different level right now... Its hard to imagine where we would be if he didn't fall so far.

San Diego Chicken · 10-24-2011, 11:08 PM

Right now I honestly believe Rodgers is the best player in the entire league.

tjsunstein · 10-24-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

Been saying this since the playoffs last year and people called me stupid...

And I got called a homer because it wasn't the popular opinion, yet.

Breed · 10-24-2011, 11:49 PM

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And I got called a homer because it wasn't the popular opinion, yet.

You're a homer...

I voted no, brady will still be better!

tjsunstein · 10-24-2011, 11:54 PM

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You're a homer...

I voted no, brady will still be better!

Says the guy that was defending Vick as the best QB in the league after Week 1.

I would say it's the pot calling the kettle back but I'm not so you're just just flat out wrong in both statements you just made.

Send me some more PMs about how much you hate your neg rep, it's a constant reminder for me to actually do it.

DanZilla · 10-25-2011, 12:16 AM

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Is there any doubt about the MVP this year?

We're witnessing one of the all time greats at the peak of his career.

IMO, Rodgers will more than likely get OPOTY and not MVP. I (everyone) expects Rodgers to light up every team he plays with his supporting cast over there. The Packers have the most complete team in the NFL, there is no denying that. I sort of agree with Brett, he stepped into a great situation and has fully taken advantage of it. Not taking anything away from Rodgers because I think he's an awesome QB to watch play. I just firmly believe you can place a young QB on the Packers team as is now and they would be successful and play great.

Manning should play the last game of season and win that game in a dominate fashion and show why he should easily be MVP lol

With everything being said, Go Brady for MVP :D

tjsunstein · 10-25-2011, 12:18 AM

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I just firmly believe you can place a young QB on the Packers team as is now and they would be successful and play great.

Manning should play the last game of season and win that game in a dominate fashion and show why he should easily be MVP lol

With everything being said, Go Brady for MVP :D

I was going to rip you for making up a scenario to use against Rodgers and penalizing him for utilizing his talent around him but the bold indicates you have an agenda here so I won't even bother attempting to talk logically with you.

Flyboy · 10-25-2011, 12:25 AM

Saints / Packers rematch in the NFCCG. I want.

tjsunstein · 10-25-2011, 12:28 AM

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Saints / Packers rematch in the NFCCG. I want.

It'd be an epic game. We can't cover Sproles or Graham, and you guys can't cover everyone at once.

SickwithIt1010 · 10-25-2011, 12:32 AM

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You're a homer...

I voted no, brady will still be better!

Dude, im a big eagles fan...and to be completely honest your ******* high. I dont need to read all your posts talking about how the eagles are better than the pack when they ******* arent right now. Our guys are playing like ****, and for me to come here and see you tooting our horn is just simply annoying.

Even being and eagles fan I can flat out say that Rodgers is the best QB in the league. Will i root against him when our eagles play him? Sure as hell will, but when hes playing against anyone else in this league my jaw is on the floor with the things he does. Im sorry, but Brady is not on this kids level right now, no one is.

DanZilla · 10-25-2011, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tjsunstein

I was going to rip you for making up a scenario to use against Rodgers and penalizing him for utilizing his talent around him but the bold indicates you have an agenda here so I won't even bother attempting to talk logically with you.

Just my opinion *shrugsshoulders*. No sure what is wrong with anything I said.

tjsunstein · 10-25-2011, 12:48 AM

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Just my opinion *shrugsshoulders*. No sure what is wrong with anything I said.

You basically called Rodgers replaceable in the Packers system with their surrounding talent...

wogitalia · 10-25-2011, 12:59 AM

Rodgers is pivotal to the Packers, they are actually built a lot like the Colts have been in the past. They have a really opportunistic defense that is built to play with a lead, they have a lot of really solid WR, a run game built on the opponent playing pass first and an OL that is solid but made better because their QB moves so well to buy time.

Anyone who thinks you could replace him with anyone outside of Brees and Brady right now and not see a significant drop off is just hating, imo at least.

Right now Rodgers deserves MVP and OPOY if it was awarded right now, things can change in the next 8 weeks, but right now I just don't see a case for anyone else.

I also like that this thread has evidence of me calling it straight away!

Still feels good to have experienced the Erasmus James and Troy Williamson era, that was a special time for Vikes fans and not at all indicative of where we are as a team right now...

DanZilla · 10-25-2011, 01:03 AM

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You basically called Rodgers replaceable in the Packers system with their surrounding talent...

I think other players would thrive in the Packers system sort of how people say that Matt Cassel did well in the Patriots system because of the surrounding coaching + talent as compared to starting for the Rams. All my opinion.

Ness · 10-25-2011, 01:06 AM

Rodgers is at a level where he's playing like the best quarterback in the NFL. But I think Brees and Brady can make the same case too. In my opinion. If we're talking team, I think it's obviously the Packers as they are the most consistent and seem good in just about all areas. If Rodgers wins another title, I guess you can make the case that he would be the best quarterback in the NFL, but at the same time I think once certain quarterbacks play at a certain level in a team sport it's hard to just list them as better or worse. Brees, Brady, and Rodgers are all playing at a fantastic level.

soybean · 10-25-2011, 01:08 AM

people who say rodgers is irreplacable because of the talent or that if you switched alex smith and aaron rodgers and their destinies would be reversed are clearly going off of baseless claims rather than actually watching the games.

Rodgers makes that team.

Just watch the way he plays, the way he moves, the way he THROWS THE FOOTBALL and where he places it.

He's smart, great arm, great mobility, places the ball exactly where it needs to be throws it to be caught in stride.

He has it all and he should go down as one of the best to ever play the game. I feel.

Even if you replaced Rodgers with Brady or Brees, the packers would have success but they still wouldnt be as elite as aaron rodgers is right now because they still make a more mistakes than he does.

He's basically... the perfect qb.