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Old 05-30-2011, 02:43 PM    (permalink
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So many people are going to be disappointed by Richardson after he turns pro.

Give me Lattimore, he's the real deal.
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Trent's ceiling is higher because of his combination of size and speed. That being said...the vision and power that Lattimore brings makes him a great runner that I think has a very high floor just not as big of a ceiling as Richardson.
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Anyone expect Trent Richardson this year to outperform Mark Ingram's Heisman season??

I don't. Will he rush for 1500+??
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Just keep those 5'9" corners from delivering open field hits on Lattimore and he should be okay. He should do well in the "new NFL" proposed by Goodell. No hitting above or below the waist of players selected in 50% of fantasy leagues.
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278 total touches last season, he took an awful lot of hard hits along the way too.

I just worry that he'll be asked to carry the load a little too much (those forty carry games are worrying) and even though he'll be very successful at the college level, his body will start to fall apart not long into his NFL career.

If Garcia doesn't come back this season he'll have to carry the team even moreso, which does not sit well with me.
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Am I the only one who finds it hard to judge Lattimore's talents because of the system he plays in?

No question he's a good player, but I can't in good conscience take Lattimore over Richardson.
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The 'system' apparently that makes it soooo easy for a true freshman RB to pick up yards between the tackles in the SEC.
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Richardson i still think would go ahead of Lattimore. Richardson has break away speed and is a better pass catcher. Lattimore is just a old fashioned bruisher.
Lattimore is a pretty impressive pass catcher out of the backfield so I don't think that I would say that Richardson is a better receiver. Lattimore is a pretty incredible talent as is Richardson, they are 1 and 1a for me. Obviously Richardson is the only one draft eligible this year though.
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The 'system' apparently that makes it soooo easy for a true freshman RB to pick up yards between the tackles in the SEC.
I was actually talking more about the fact that he plays in the spread and doesn't get to see a whole lot of I formation, single back formation, etc.
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I was actually talking more about the fact that he plays in the spread and doesn't get to see a whole lot of I formation, single back formation, etc.
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We watching the same team? Carolina still uses a lot of under center formations.
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Richardson's physical tools will get him drafted early. For whatever reason, it looked like Ingram had better instincts and vision compared to Richardson. I don't know much about Lattimore, other than that he's a bruiser of a running back. Lattimore won't have the same breakaway speed.
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Lattimore has destroyed the off-season;

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By the end of his freshman year, the 6-foot Lattimore weighed around 217 lbs. Now, with his new training partners by his side, he has bulked up to 231 lbs. this spring, while lowering his 40-yard dash time to 4.5 seconds. He now has a 35-inch vertical jump and a broad jump of just short of 10 feet. Not only did his speed and vertical increase, but his strength did as well. Lattimore increased his back squat from 425 lbs. to 482 lbs., his 275 lb. power-clean is now 315 lbs., and his bench press is finally over 300 lbs. for the first time in his life.

Lattimore’s hard work doesn’t just stop there. He even shows up early to run stadium steps with teammates who fail to make it to their designated workout.
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Richardson's physical tools will get him drafted early. For whatever reason, it looked like Ingram had better instincts and vision compared to Richardson. I don't know much about Lattimore, other than that he's a bruiser of a running back. Lattimore won't have the same breakaway speed.
It's obvious you don't know anything about lattimore. He's definitely not a brusing "power" rb..
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Gaining 16 pounds of muscle in a year and a half worries me. First, I have to wonder if that's natural. Second, it seems that every pro rb who bulks up ends up deciding that they are better off at their previous, lighter weight.
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We watching the same team? Carolina still uses a lot of under center formations.
I dont agree with that at all. They should use a lot more I because of Lattimore and they have a big offensive line, but from what I've seen its mostly shotgun spread.
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Yeah Cigaro, SCAR doesnt use many under center formations at all anymore, not even in goal line. In regard to Lattimore, though...it's nothing to be concerned over. He shines after initial contact, has outstanding vision, and is just an overall terror in the open field...his balance is just unbelievable. He's as legit as they come.

And Lattimore isnt just a power back...he's extremely balanced. He can do everything and he does everything very well.
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Gaining 16 pounds of muscle in a year and a half worries me. First, I have to wonder if that's natural. Second, it seems that every pro rb who bulks up ends up deciding that they are better off at their previous, lighter weight.
IMO it's no biggie for a college athlete to gain 16# from the end of his HS senior year until the beginning of his true sophomore season, but if he did it again, that would be suspicious.

Lattimore in HS looked like he never lifted a weight before. His power numbers this offseason at SC are nice, but not awe-inspiring. Just good to see he's improved physically over the offseason.

I wonder about his speed, if it's actually improved. 230# is a little too heavy except for the most rare college RBs.

I think Lattimore is at his best playing around 220-225#, but we'll have to wait and see.
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IMO it's no biggie for a college athlete to gain 16# from the end of his HS senior year until the beginning of his true sophomore season, but if he did it again, that would be suspicious.
If Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews can do it legitimately... surely Marcus Lattimore can.
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You'd be surpised at what kind of gains a college athlete can make naturally in their first real off-season. While jumping from a high school workout routine, to a collegiate one. It's a whole other ball game. Especially when you factor in the better eating habits and proper nutritrion many college athletes adapt at that next level. The early gains can be very substantial.
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I was saying earlier this year that I think Lattimore will be the best RB prospect since AD.
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I dont agree with that at all. They should use a lot more I because of Lattimore and they have a big offensive line, but from what I've seen its mostly shotgun spread.
You're right, I went back and watched his Georgia carrys. For some reason I must have been thinking of 2009, apparently my remembrance of the games this season is a little too low.

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Gaining 16 pounds of muscle in a year and a half worries me. First, I have to wonder if that's natural. Second, it seems that every pro rb who bulks up ends up deciding that they are better off at their previous, lighter weight.
Eh. Like earlier said, this was his first college offseason, and his work ethic is unquestionably the best on the team. I'd be worried about it if this happened again next offseason, but I think its only positive this year.

As for his weight in general, I think he'll be able to carry it. He's faster than ever, and there are backs who carry that weight successfully.
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If Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews can do it legitimately... surely Marcus Lattimore can.
Except Cushing didn't do it legitimately.
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Except Cushing didn't do it legitimately.
and clay hasnt been caught yet...
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:38 PM    (permalink
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If Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews can do it legitimately... surely Marcus Lattimore can.
It's funny because he didn't. And Matthews looks like a Morlock.
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It's funny because he didn't. And Matthews looks like a Morlock.

Descendency was being ironic/sarcastic.

Neither Cushing or CMIII in all probably gained all that weight at USC from drinking copious amounts of mother's milk as infants.
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