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Old 04-29-2012, 02:24 PM    (permalink
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Joe Martinek could be a power back/athletic west coast FB that the NFL was transitioning to (or transitioning away from that altogether). He lives near me, I think I'd keep him over Pascoe.
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Joe Martinek could be a power back/athletic west coast FB that the NFL was transitioning to (or transitioning away from that altogether). He lives near me, I think I'd keep him over Pascoe.
No chance, Pascoe has earned his place on this team and we need him at TE because of injuries.
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yeah we need pascoe. Jersey Joe probably isn't going to make the team, which makes me sad
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I'll give Jersey Joe a puncher's chance to make the roster. Hynosaurus wasn't exactly lighting it up last year. That should be a good competition for FB.
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Hynoski is a true FB while Martinek isn't. Since he's more of a hybrid HB/FB I don't think Gilbride will know how to use his skill set properly. Also, his blocking leaves a lot to be desired as he was actually surpassed on the Rutgers depth chart last year.
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Well, I guess he's a practice squader then.
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When I look at our UDFAs, I'm not really looking at any of them to be guys who can potentially make the team. I just want guys who can make our practice squad versatile and competitive for our starters. Cruz is the exception to the rule.

That's why I like Carr as our backup, his mobility makes him a good practice squad qb. Jersey Joe can offer some versatility to our practice squad.
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as long as we keep bringing in rutgers players, we'll keep winning.

Super Bowl 42: O'Hara

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yeah, notice the trend
Or we've won due to keeping very few Rutgers players on the team.

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Or we've won due to keeping very few Rutgers players on the team.

Just sayin'.
You can't say a thing considering how bad our UConn player is.
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When I look at our UDFAs, I'm not really looking at any of them to be guys who can potentially make the team. I just want guys who can make our practice squad versatile and competitive for our starters. Cruz is the exception to the rule.

That's why I like Carr as our backup, his mobility makes him a good practice squad qb. Jersey Joe can offer some versatility to our practice squad.
Absolutely. Martinek should be a god scout team player for the year. I think we might use him in the HB role anyway.
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I just hate our center situation. I personally view C as the most important position on the OL (I feel LT is overrated) and we have a hard on for mediocre Centers.

I know O'Hara was a Rutgers alum, but he was the definition of mediocre for all these years. Then we double down on Baas, who makes O'Hara look like a Pro Bowler.

Why can't we have a Kalil, or a Mangold, or a Pouncey type Center? What is so evil about that? This year I loved Konz, but hope, can't draft him, we got Baas.

Now we're stuck with mediocrity at C for another 3 to 4 years. It's just so frustrating.
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You can't say a thing considering how bad our UConn player is.
I know, I was merely kidding. I really don't mind Rutgers that much. I just like to poke fun at you and Scotty. The only time it really bothers me is when you let your Rutgers fan hood change your opinion of the draft.

For example, your thoughts on JPP (probably mainly Scotty on this one since he widely acknowledged his hate for the pick stemmed from him going to USF).

And Sanu being overrated is another. I liked Sanu but clearly a lot of teams did not consider him as highly as you guys did. Randle was a first round talent. Sanu was not. Which is why I'm not sure why some of you guys hated him over Sanu.
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I know, I was merely kidding. I really don't mind Rutgers that much. I just like to poke fun at you and Scotty. The only time it really bothers me is when you let your Rutgers fan hood change your opinion of the draft.

For example, your thoughts on JPP (probably mainly Scotty on this one since he widely acknowledged his hate for the pick stemmed from him going to USF).

And Sanu being overrated is another. I liked Sanu but clearly a lot of teams did not consider him as highly as you guys did. Randle was a first round talent. Sanu was not. Which is why I'm not sure why some of you guys hated him over Sanu.
I was kidding also honey. I hope Beatty does well this year. I love Rutgers but the Gianrs are my football team so I couldn't care less where some players went to school as well as they perform. I hate ND but Tuck is a god damn boss. I don't think Randle is a first round talent but I don't want to rehash all this again. I didn't care that JPP went to USF I just never thought he was all that good when he played Rutgers. 100% glad I was wrong and I hope I'm wrong again on the Randle over Sanu thing. I didn't react this way when we took Nicks over Britt 3 years ago because I really liked Nicks also and knew he could ball.
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I was kidding also honey. I hope Beatty does well this year. I love Rutgers but the Gianrs are my football team so I couldn't care less where some players went to school as well as they perform. I hate ND but Tuck is a god damn boss.
I know, darling. I won't lie - I am mainly referring to Scotty on this. Sorry Scotty, I still love you.
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I'm actually pretty level headed with the Giants.

But I'm a gigantic Knicks homer.
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If jersey joe can get the run blocking then I'd be interested to see how he would do in short yardage situations.
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I want him to make the team just bc his name is Jersey Joe. We need a Jersey Joe on the Giants. It just feels so appropriate.
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But I'm a gigantic Knicks homer.
Haha I know. And I think many on the boards here hate Knicks because of that, hah.
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I know, I was merely kidding. I really don't mind Rutgers that much. I just like to poke fun at you and Scotty. The only time it really bothers me is when you let your Rutgers fan hood change your opinion of the draft.

For example, your thoughts on JPP (probably mainly Scotty on this one since he widely acknowledged his hate for the pick stemmed from him going to USF).

And Sanu being overrated is another. I liked Sanu but clearly a lot of teams did not consider him as highly as you guys did. Randle was a first round talent. Sanu was not. Which is why I'm not sure why some of you guys hated him over Sanu.
to be fair, I didn't like JPP's production (or lack there of) in the big east!

Randle, I already stated I didn't like him before the whole Sanu thing, that doesn't really effect that. I get that Sanu didn't exactly fit what we needed, but that stung. I just have a bad feeling with Randle, just never impressed me from what I've seen and read.

Also, I'll be honest here, Martinek kinda really stinks haha. Out of all the UDFA, I would want Justin Francis. Martinek isn't good and isn't making the team. SO THERE. realism!

also, Zak and I, while we love our Rutgers, the only RU guy we've ever over-hyped was Leonard, and that's understandable. We were right on the McCourtys, Rice and Britt
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Haha I know. And I think many on the boards here hate Knicks because of that, hah.
**** em. That circle jerk that goes on in that thread is annoying. I find basketball purists to be annoying. In theory making that extra pass and playing team ball and having a bench and all that crap sounds great. But at the end of the day, it doesn't win. Star players who can iso and hit the J in crunch time win. Kobe wins. Jordan wins. That's what people in that thread don't realize. Bench is overrated, team ball is overrated.

All you need to win a championship in basketball is 2 stars players, and good team defense. And the teams that win are almost always the teams with the 2 best players in the league. The cream always rises to the top in basketball.
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to be fair, I didn't like JPP's production (or lack there of) in the big east!

Randle, I already stated I didn't like him before the whole Sanu thing, that doesn't really effect that. I get that Sanu didn't exactly fit what we needed, but that stung. I just have a bad feeling with Randle, just never impressed me from what I've seen and read.

Also, I'll be honest here, Martinek kinda really stinks haha. Out of all the UDFA, I would want Justin Francis. Martinek isn't good and isn't making the team. SO THERE. realism!

also, Zak and I, while we love our Rutgers, the only RU guy we've ever over-hyped was Leonard, and that's understandable. We were right on the McCourtys, Rice and Britt
Word on the street is Reese has an inside connect on the LSU coaching staff who he trusts a lot, and he really sold him on Randle.

I like Randle. Like I've been saying, put on the game he had vs Florida. It's one of the few games where his qb actually had a good game, and he destroyed Florida's defense. The guy can ball. If he can play that well vs Florida, he can work in the NFL.

And apparently he's very good at recognizing coverages. That's a must in our system, so he sounds like a good system fit.

That's why Reese and Ross kept saying he's "NFL ready" they were referring to his ability to pick up our complex system.
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I actually **** on McCourty a little. I'm still shocked he went in the 1st round and I was even more shocked when he played as well he did his rookie year. He's a very good #2 and won't be anything more. He wasn't as bad as he was last year so I guess he shall be more in between. Logan Ryan is who I want. Focus on him while watching Rutgers this year and you're going to come away loving him as a prospect.
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Word on the street is Reese has an inside connect on the LSU coaching staff who he trusts a lot, and he really sold him on Randle.

I like Randle. Like I've been saying, put on the game he had vs Florida. It's one of the few games where his qb actually had a good game, and he destroyed Florida's defense. The guy can ball. If he can play that well vs Florida, he can work in the NFL.

And apparently he's very good at recognizing coverages. That's a must in our system, so he sounds like a good system fit.

That's why Reese and Ross kept saying he's "NFL ready" they were referring to his ability to pick up our complex system.

Reese said "route tree" about 5 times while talking about Randle for 15 seconds in the draft interview. I hope I'm wrong, I really do, I just wasn't a fan of him before the draft
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Word on the street is Reese has an inside connect on the LSU coaching staff who he trusts a lot, and he really sold him on Randle.

I like Randle. Like I've been saying, put on the game he had vs Florida. It's one of the few games where his qb actually had a good game, and he destroyed Florida's defense. The guy can ball. If he can play that well vs Florida, he can work in the NFL.

And apparently he's very good at recognizing coverages. That's a must in our system, so he sounds like a good system fit.

That's why Reese and Ross kept saying he's "NFL ready" they were referring to his ability to pick up our complex system.
Well Sanu is also. A lot of people think that he reads defenses better than the QB. He really would have been perfect for our system. I really thought our FO would have loved him. I wish I could hear their thoughts on why they passed.
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I actually **** on McCourty a little. I'm still shocked he went in the 1st round and I was even more shocked when he played as well he did his rookie year. He's a very good #2 and won't be anything more. He wasn't as bad as he was last year so I guess he shall be more in between. Logan Ryan is who I want. Focus on him while watching Rutgers this year and you're going to come away loving him as a prospect.
after that game where he played like a million snaps I said his versatility should make him a 3rd rounder and I got **** on. But you know... :D

and Logan's legit. He's your boy, you've loved him since day 1. I'm still hoping Khaseem bulks up and keeps his speed. He's my boy.
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