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Old 04-23-2012, 04:34 PM    (permalink) 
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I don't know. The Blues have a damn good, well built young team. They should pretty much just be getting better for the next 4-5 years (unless they end up in a Hawks-like cap hell), whereas the Wings are supposed to be on the decline.

Though, even after their unbelievable year, I can't trust Halak and Elliott on a consistent, year-to-year basis.
I'm probably not giving the Blues enough credit, but it felt like they kinda overachieved this year. They got hot at the right time and rode it as long as they could and I kinda feel like they are the equivilent of the Lightning last year, a playoff team that will drop off next year. I don't think they'll miss the playoffs, they have a great young nucleus and I wouldn't at all be surprised if they won again, but I could easily see Detroit winning the division again next year. Part of this is probably the fact that Howard is a much better and consistant goalie than Halak and Elliott are.
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I don't think the Wings are due for any decline. They'll be steady in the 4th through 6th range in the West where they're at now.

People continue to say they're too old, but they only have three players over the age of 33 right now, and at least one of them (Holmstrom) is about to retire. Nick Lidstrom's age is really irrelevant. He's a top 10-15 defenseman even at 42.

Guys like Helm, Abdelkader, Smith, Nyqvist, Ericsson, Quincey, Howard, Miller, Kindl are all young. Their prime players are all 28-33 years old, which leaves that group a big window to still win in.
The fact that two important players are about to retire is exactly why they're on the decline.
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I'm probably not giving the Blues enough credit, but it felt like they kinda overachieved this year. They got hot at the right time and rode it as long as they could and I kinda feel like they are the equivilent of the Lightning last year, a playoff team that will drop off next year. I don't think they'll miss the playoffs, they have a great young nucleus and I wouldn't at all be surprised if they won again, but I could easily see Detroit winning the division again next year. Part of this is probably the fact that Howard is a much better and consistant goalie than Halak and Elliott are.
They were like the Lightning two years ago when they had a surprisingly good season. Now they're legit.
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I'm probably not giving the Blues enough credit, but it felt like they kinda overachieved this year. They got hot at the right time and rode it as long as they could and I kinda feel like they are the equivilent of the Lightning last year, a playoff team that will drop off next year. I don't think they'll miss the playoffs, they have a great young nucleus and I wouldn't at all be surprised if they won again, but I could easily see Detroit winning the division again next year. Part of this is probably the fact that Howard is a much better and consistant goalie than Halak and Elliott are.
Hiring a masterful coach should not be mistaken for getting hot at the right time. That young core is only getting better, and they didn't even have Steen or McDonald (sooo underrated, but missing time is to be expected) for much of the year.

I don't disagree that Detroit could be back on top next year, even if I disagree with the goalie comparison. But there's plenty of reason to believe in the Blues' prolonged legitimacy.
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The fact that two important players are about to retire is exactly why they're on the decline.
Lidstrom, yes. Holmstrom? He's been playing on the fourth line the last 2 seasons and his production hasn't been this low since his rookie season basically.

Replacing him is a net-positive at this point. As much as he's been awesome for years and years.
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I find it hard to believe that Lidstrom will actually retire, especially when he stills plays at an high level. Playing 20 years is amazing, but playing 70+ games in each season but one is really impressive.
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I find it hard to believe that Lidstrom will actually retire, especially when he stills plays at an high level. Playing 20 years is amazing, but playing 70+ games in each season but one is really impressive.
It all makes logical sense, but Lidstrom has gone year-to-year on retirement seemingly forever. He has four sons and there has always been talk that he wanted to move them all back to Sweden (and I think he already has his oldest son back over there).
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Really good start from the Hawks, just couldn't dent the net.
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Right now, Ekman-Larsson has the game winning goal. I'm not saying I'm God, but...
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Well the Hawks dominated the game for the first 45 or so minutes. They just never could get the puck top shelf on chance after chance vs Smith.

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Congrats to you guys...good luck against the Preds.

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Was a hell of a series, Mike Smith shall carry us into the WCF :)

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The rest of these Western Conference games are going to be a drag to watch. 2-1, 2-0, 1-0 games the rest of the way, lets goooo.
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The rest of the Western Conference are teams in Los Angeles, Nashville, St. Louis and Phoenix. I still can't take in just how awesome that is.
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Whatever. I'm excited for these series. Love the new blood.

How about Vermette for a trade deadline pickup? Had a pretty good series.
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Kings scare the poop out of me. I think it'll go 6 or 7 games, 3 of the 4 games the two teams played this season were one goal games. and two of those games were 1-0 finishes (blues won one, kings won one) Quick had 2 shutouts.
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Alright...I'm not too familiar with what these games are after the season...but I'll supply some predictions.

Canucks over Kings in 5
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Blackhawks over Coyotes in 7
Predators over Red Wings in 6

Rangers over Senators in 5
Bruins over Capitals in 6
Devils over Panthers in 4
Penguins over Flyers in 6
Welp....There's a chance I only get 1 correct...yikes
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Blues to rest Halak for at least two more games.
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Be a pro goalie is ******* hard gosh
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i'm nervous for tonight :(
Ya boy Clemmensen is going to shut the door on your whole season!

Florida has to have the least American roster in the league.
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