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Old 11-11-2014, 07:04 PM    (permalink
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Thursday, November 13th

Buffalo Bills at Miami Dolphins 8:25 PM EST


Sunday, November 16th

Minnesota Vikings at Chicago Bears 1:00 PM EST
Houston Texans at Cleveland Browns 1:00 PM EST
Atlanta Falcons at Carolina Panthers 1:00 PM EST
Cincinnati Bengals at New Orleans Saints 1:00 PM EST
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Washington Redskins 1:00 PM EST
Denver Broncos at St.Louis Rams 1:00 PM EST
San Francisco 49ers at New York Giants 1:00 PM EST
Seattle Seahawks at Kansas City Chiefs 1:00 PM EST

Oakland Raiders at San Diego Chargers 4:05 PM EST
Detroit Lions at Arizona Cardinals 4:25 PM EST
Philadelphia Eagles at Green Bay Packers 4:25 PM EST

New England Patriots at Indianapolis Colts 8:30 PM EST


Monday, November 17th

Pittsburgh Steelers at Tennessee Titans 8:30 PM EST


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We have some really good games on the slate this week. Also, only four teams on a bye including only one NFC team. Two of the teams are the Jaguars and Jets.

NFL Sunday will start at 3am for me on a Monday in Tokyo, but I'll be watching most likely. Perhaps the jet lag will help.

I'm looking forward to Bengals/Saints, Seahawks/Chiefs, Lions/Cardinals, Eagles/Packers, Patriots/Colts, and of course my 49ers at the Giants.

While I'm not as interested in the other games I will say that I want to see how far the Browns will continue to rise and how far Oakland will continue to fall.
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DET winning at ARI will put them in contention for the No. 1 seed.

SEA/KC is a huge game for both teams. I could see KC taking it fairly easily. Wilson has been incredibly inaccurate and I doubt they can run with a lot of consistency @ KC. SEA has two options this year. Lose 2 or 3 more games and end up as a road warrior WC with absolutely no one backing them but a relatively winnable road to the SB (they give GB/NO huge problems and ARI/DET/ATL/NFCEastteams don't scare me in the playoffs). Or they go on a run starting here and take a shot at the division and even possibly a first-round bye. They aren't playing too well but still have a 6-3 record and are obviously capable of getting very hot. The line being healthy is huge, and Kam and Zach Miller should be back soon. Wilson's odd regression should end soon. I could see a big run.

Regardless, losing @ KC won't kill them I don't think. I kind of like the under-the-radar "what's wrong with the Seahawks???!?" thing. In this league no one stays dominant for long. As long as they are still in it and winning ENOUGH, they can get in the tournament and play like they have in the past two postseasons.

I put DEN, PIT, and SD on mild upset alert.
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DET winning at ARI will put them in contention for the No. 1 seed.

SEA/KC is a huge game for both teams. I could see KC taking it fairly easily. Wilson has been incredibly inaccurate and I doubt they can run with a lot of consistency @ KC. SEA has two options this year. Lose 2 or 3 more games and end up as a road warrior WC with absolutely no one backing them but a relatively winnable road to the SB (they give GB/NO huge problems and ARI/DET/ATL/NFCEastteams don't scare me in the playoffs). Or they go on a run starting here and take a shot at the division and even possibly a first-round bye. They aren't playing too well but still have a 6-3 record and are obviously capable of getting very hot. The line being healthy is huge, and Kam and Zach Miller should be back soon. Wilson's odd regression should end soon. I could see a big run.

Regardless, losing @ KC won't kill them I don't think. I kind of like the under-the-radar "what's wrong with the Seahawks???!?" thing. In this league no one stays dominant for long. As long as they are still in it and winning ENOUGH, they can get in the tournament and play like they have in the past two postseasons.

I put DEN, PIT, and SD on mild upset alert.
Seattle is an interesting one, because on paper their first half schedule looks much softer than what they have left. If they make playoffs they will be very dangerous because it means they have been playing some pretty good consistent football.
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I put DEN, PIT, and SD on mild upset alert.
Not sure how ANYTHING PIT or SD do this week could be considered an upset. They have put in some of the most dominant and most pathetic performances ever seen in the NFL this season.
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Seattle is an interesting one, because on paper their first half schedule looks much softer than what they have left. If they make playoffs they will be very dangerous because it means they have been playing some pretty good consistent football.
Even if they back in or somehow get lucky to make it at 9-7 or something, no on is going to want to face them.

It's possible the road to the SB could be like Mark Sanchez, Drew Stanton, and the Lions.
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Even if they back in or somehow get lucky to make it at 9-7 or something, no on is going to want to face them.

It's possible the road to the SB could be like Mark Sanchez, Drew Stanton, and the Lions.
If the Broncos make the superbowl, I would feel more comfortable playing any other team in the NFC than Seattle, with Green Bay maybe the only exception.

I know what you are saying - I am still expecting that the Lions and Eagles fall apart. Cant wait for the two Seahawks-49ers match-ups. Gonna be sick.
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We have some really good games on the slate this week. Also, only four teams on a bye including only one NFC team. Two of the teams are the Jaguars and Jets.

NFL Sunday will start at 3am for me on a Monday in Tokyo, but I'll be watching most likely. Perhaps the jet lag will help.

I'm looking forward to Bengals/Saints, Seahawks/Chiefs, Lions/Cardinals, Eagles/Packers, Patriots/Colts, and of course my 49ers at the Giants.

While I'm not as interested in the other games I will say that I want to see how far the Browns will continue to rise and how far Oakland will continue to fall.
Just thought I'd mention that Cleveland has played the easiest schedule in the NFL so far this season. .430 SOS.

Also, with Palmer out for the season, the Detroit/Arizona game might not be all that it could have been.
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Regardless, losing @ KC won't kill them I don't think. I kind of like the under-the-radar "what's wrong with the Seahawks???!?" thing. In this league no one stays dominant for long. As long as they are still in it and winning ENOUGH, they can get in the tournament and play like they have in the past two postseasons.
I've said all along that Seattle would suffer the SB jinx and have fits winning on the road. So far, that is pretty well the way their season is progressing.
I don't expect them to make the playoffs.
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If the Broncos make the superbowl, I would feel more comfortable playing any other team in the NFC than Seattle, with Green Bay maybe the only exception.

I know what you are saying - I am still expecting that the Lions and Eagles fall apart. Cant wait for the two Seahawks-49ers match-ups. Gonna be sick.
Here's the Seahawks schedule with my projected lines. They are now 6-3. Every game is a playoff contender, and I personally think the Rams are pretty good. Hell, they already beat SEA. And they always play them tough.

@ KC -2
vs ARI +6.5
@ SF +1.5 (Thanksgiving Night)
@ PHI -2
vs SF -4.5
@ ARI -3
vs STL -7.5

4-3 is the likeliest outcome, but even that would be tough. There's a real chance they miss the playoffs if they lose this week. This is a big game.
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Will Oakland finally steal a game? A meaningful one at the least of preventing a winless season.
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Very good games this week. I am most excited for BUF-MIA, SEA-KC, DET-ARI, PHI-GB, NE-IND, and, of course, SF-NYG. All have serious playoff implications and all should be close games. Even the rest of the games this week should be close as all of the teams are pretty evenly matched.
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If the Lions win this week, they have a pretty clear path to a first round bye. 8-2 with two games against Chicago and one each at home against Minnesota and Tampa puts them on the path for at least 12-4. I don't necessarily expect them to beat Green Bay or New England on the road, but they don't have to at this point.
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If the Lions win this week, they have a pretty clear path to a first round bye. 8-2 with two games against Chicago and one each at home against Minnesota and Tampa puts them on the path for at least 12-4. I don't necessarily expect them to beat Green Bay or New England on the road, but they don't have to at this point.
Very possible that you guys go into week 17 at 12-3/11-4 and we're at 11-4/10-5. If we won, the tie-break for 1st could get quite interesting.

Head-to-head would be 1-1. Assuming we win @ Minnesota then you guys win @/vs Chicago and vs Minnesota, both teams have a 5-1 division record. So it could easily go down record in common games (Packers currently 3-1 in non-divison common games, Lions are 4-2)
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Very possible that you guys go into week 17 at 12-3/11-4 and we're at 11-4/10-5. If we won, the tie-break for 1st could get quite interesting.

Head-to-head would be 1-1. Assuming we win @ Minnesota then you guys win @/vs Chicago and vs Minnesota, both teams have a 5-1 division record. So it could easily go down record in common games (Packers currently 3-1 in non-divison common games, Lions are 4-2)
I look forward to the war, son.

And I see NBC decided not to flex NE/Detroit into next Sunday's game so that we can see the Giants/Cowboys in another NFC East suckfest.
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If Peyton Manning wins a second ring, he should (and probably will) be considered the best quarterback ever. But that last sentence starts with a mighty big "If".

I'll be watching tonight's game at a bar (since I don't have NFL Network). When people saw it on the schedule, many of them were probably thinking that NFLN was stuck with a meaningless crapfest. Instead, the winner will be 6-4 with a good shot at a wildcard (but I don't think the loser -- a 5-5 Buffalo or a 5-5 Miami -- will make the playoffs).
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If Peyton Manning wins a second ring, he should (and probably will) be considered the best quarterback ever. But that last sentence starts with a mighty big "If".

I'll be watching tonight's game at a bar (since I don't have NFL Network). When people saw it on the schedule, many of them were probably thinking that NFLN was stuck with a meaningless crapfest. Instead, the winner will be 6-4 with a good shot at a wildcard (but I don't think the loser -- a 5-5 Buffalo or a 5-5 Miami -- will make the playoffs).
If Manning wins another ring he still might not be considered the best quarterback of his generation. The thing he'd have going for him is that he did it with another team, but there will always be the folks that will point out his massive failures in the playoffs where he and his team were favorites more often than not. Plus...you can't beat Joe :)
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And I see NBC decided not to flex NE/Detroit into next Sunday's game so that we can see the Giants/Cowboys in another NFC East suckfest.
Now that is ******* stupid. Unless FOX is protecting the game.
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