New and Improved Free Agency Discussion and News Mega-Thread - Page 119

cvv84 · 07-31-2011, 01:35 PM

James Jones back with the Packers for 3 years

HeavyLeggedWaistBender · 07-31-2011, 01:36 PM

Is Spencer any good, or is he "having a shot at being our best lineman" a slam.

LTgiants · 07-31-2011, 01:42 PM

Chris Spencer boo I wanted you to reunite with Eli.

Matthew Jones · 07-31-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyLeggedWaistBender

Is Spencer any good, or is he "having a shot at being our best lineman" a slam.

Not a very good player. Pretty consistently below average. Then again, Olin Kreutz did not perform well last year either and any contract he signed probably would have been expensive based on his past contributions instead of his current level of play. At least with Spencer, there's some youth.

asdf1223 · 07-31-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyLeggedWaistBender

Is Spencer any good, or is he "having a shot at being our best lineman" a slam.

He's a steady league average center still with some untapped potential. Very athletic but injury prone and some mental errors as well. If you want a comp, he's just like ex-Seattle OL Rob Sims who Lions fans like a lot because he instantly upgraded their interior. Solid but nothing spectacular.

BeerBaron · 07-31-2011, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by asdf1223

He's a steady league average center still with some untapped potential. Very athletic but injury prone and some mental errors as well. If you want a comp, he's just like ex-Seattle OL Rob Sims who Lions fans like a lot because he instantly upgraded their interior. Solid but nothing spectacular.

Sounds like he'd automatically be our best lineman without question.

HeavyLeggedWaistBender · 07-31-2011, 01:48 PM

Yeah, I'll take him.

BeerBaron · 07-31-2011, 01:51 PM

I mean hell, if we lose Kreutz, I would have settled for Shaun O'Hara.

asdf1223 · 07-31-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RavenOfProphecy

Not a very good player. Pretty consistently below average. Then again, Olin Kreutz did not perform well last year either and any contract he signed probably would have been expensive based on his past contributions instead of his current level of play. At least with Spencer, there's some youth.

If you were using PFF's OL ratings I would take that with a massive massive grain of salt. Seattle for the past 2 years has had the most combination of OL players. I think we used 13 players for 5 spots in 2010 and 2011. Spencer is the only who has been consistent. Also, this is the same system that thinks Sean Locklear is a good player when its wholly a product of Matt Hasselbeck's quick release. Locklear is a terrible terrible player and one of the worst OL in the game.

fenikz · 07-31-2011, 01:54 PM

Hightower signing his tender :D

bigbluedefense · 07-31-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron

I mean hell, if we lose Kreutz, I would have settled for Shaun O'Hara.

You really wouldn't want to do that. O'Hara was godawful last year. He's been below average for 3 years now.

Last year he was so bad I was waiting for Eli to blow out his knee. Constant pressure up the middle when O'Hara played.

The Giants literally had no Centers coming into camp and we STILL cut him. That should tell you how washed up he is.

BeerBaron · 07-31-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

You really wouldn't want to do that. O'Hara was godawful last year. He's been below average for 3 years now.

Last year he was so bad I was waiting for Eli to blow out his knee. Constant pressure up the middle when O'Hara played.

The Giants literally had no Centers coming into camp and we STILL cut him. That should tell you how washed up he is.

Kreutz was godawful last year. He's been below average for 3 years now.

Last year he was so bad I was waiting for Cutler to blow out his knee. Constant pressure up the middle when Kreutz played.

The Bears literally had no other centers on the roster and we lowballed the **** out of Kreutz. He was so bad O'Hara would have been an upgrade. Chris Spencer looks like a god damned Hall of Famer in comparison.

See what I did there?

I mean....BBD...you saw what the Giants did to us last year. This goes for pretty much anyone other than Cowboys fans...however bad you think your o-line was, the Bears was worse.

V.I.P · 07-31-2011, 02:05 PM

Shaun O'Hara can't be bad, ..... he made the pro bowlzzzzzzzzzzzz !!!!!!

asdf1223 · 07-31-2011, 02:06 PM

Also Aubrayo Franklin heading to SF for a visit. Maybe the 9ers wont have such a bad offseason after all.

DoughBoy · 07-31-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

They would struggle in the sense that VY isnt a good deep ball passer. Desean is one of the, if not the best deep ball receiver in the league and Maclin is very good as well due to his speed. But these guys have no problem catching short to intermediate passes either, so idk why people dont think that VY couldnt come in for a game or 2 span and be successful.

If he was our starting QB for the entire season however? I would be worried.

God does no one ever watch the titans? (awnser no, why would they?) but Vince has a very good deep ball. He struggles in throwing dump passes and screens. He had the best deep ball % in the NFL before the meltdown.

SuperMcGee · 07-31-2011, 02:10 PM

Bills sign Barnett.

3 years, $12 million

bigbluedefense · 07-31-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Kreutz was godawful last year. He's been below average for 3 years now.

Last year he was so bad I was waiting for Cutler to blow out his knee. Constant pressure up the middle when Kreutz played.

The Bears literally had no other centers on the roster and we lowballed the **** out of Kreutz. He was so bad O'Hara would have been an upgrade. Chris Spencer looks like a god damned Hall of Famer in comparison.

See what I did there?

I mean....BBD...you saw what the Giants did to us last year. This goes for pretty much anyone other than Cowboys fans...however bad you think your o-line was, the Bears was worse.

I know. But replacing dog crap with cat poo doesn't solve anything.

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Originally Posted by V-I-P

Shaun O'Hara can't be bad, ..... he made the pro bowlzzzzzzzzzzzz !!!!!!

Just goes to show you what a joke the Pro Bowl has become.

DoughBoy · 07-31-2011, 02:19 PM

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The #Titans have agreed to terms with TE Daniel Graham on a three-year deal, sources say

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Nalej · 07-31-2011, 02:20 PM

Yea!......?

Matthew Jones · 07-31-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DoughBoy

God does no one ever watch the titans? (awnser no, why would they?) but Vince has a very good deep ball. He struggles in throwing dump passes and screens. He had the best deep ball % in the NFL before the meltdown.

This is accurate - Young is actually at his best from 10-19 yards, pretty strong on passes longer than that, and a little below average on the shorter throws.

tjsunstein · 07-31-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cvv84

James Jones back with the Packers for 3 years

3 years is just enough time to see if he's legit or not. How much cash is the question?

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Originally Posted by SuperMcgee

Bills sign Barnett.

3 years, $12 million

Always liked Barnett, hope he does well.

jayceheathman · 07-31-2011, 02:27 PM

Looks like James Casey will now be the starting FB for the Texans.

SolidGold · 07-31-2011, 02:27 PM

Per PFT...Dennis Dixon has not signed his tender. He wants to be traded to a team with the opportunity to be a starter. I think he is delusional and is nothing more than a spot starter career back up.

JBCX · 07-31-2011, 02:29 PM

Man, that Tulloch signing was one of the best of this entire off-season.

He's absolutely the *perfect* guy to be playing behind Fairley and Suh. That defense is going to be absolutely amazing up the middle. All they need is a CB or two to round it out.

V.I.P · 07-31-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidGold

Per PFT...Dennis Dixon has not signed his tender. He wants to be traded to a team with the opportunity to be a starter. I think he is delusional and is nothing more than a spot starter career back up.

Seattle? hmmm