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Old 08-06-2011, 10:36 PM    (permalink
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Ravens should have just kept Mason. He's not going to be playing much longer anyways. I mean if you're going to make a Super Bowl run...might as well keep him.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:37 PM    (permalink
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Hope they settle things with Finny. He may be a dirty bastard, but he's our dirty bastard!

Oh, and Andre Johnson has a sore vagina. :)
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Excellent to hear. Beats the "screaming" approach.
That's because he knows what the **** he's doing.
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Shaun Ellis is a Patriot depending on a physical.
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I like this a lot. We have added some nastiness and versatility along the DL with Haynesworth and Ellis.
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MaNNNNNNNNNNNNN O Mannnn that is some good beef to put on the line..at this point both are risks but NE is a place that can reunite a players career ala Randy.
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Very happy with the Shaun Ellis signing. Scheme-versatile and he killed us last year in the playoffs.
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Wonder if Jason Snelling comes back to Atlanta. Very useful player. We have an offer out to him (probably not even close to what he wants) and it looks like the market has pretty much dried up.
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I'm surprised Snelling hasn't gotten more interest on the market. He's actually perfect for the Packers, but the Packers never go after free agents.

He'd be a good fit for the Eagles too.
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I'm surprised Snelling hasn't gotten more interest on the market. He's actually perfect for the Packers, but the Packers never go after free agents.

He'd be a good fit for the Eagles too.

So am I. He's nothing particularly special, but he's a solid 2, and is very useful in the pass catching department. Can even play a little bit of FB if need be. And plays ST well. Good guy to have.

But the only things I've heard were Giants (pre Bradshaw) and Rams (pre Caddy and Norwood).
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So am I. He's nothing particularly special, but he's a solid 2, and is very useful in the pass catching department. Can even play a little bit of FB if need be. And plays ST well. Good guy to have.

But the only things I've heard were Giants (pre Bradshaw) and Rams (pre Caddy and Norwood).
Yeah. I figure his jack of all trades ability would be great to have for some spread offense out there. You can be much more multiple in your attack with a guy like him in the backfield.

Especially for GB. He makes perfect sense for them.
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Wonder if Jason Snelling comes back to Atlanta. Very useful player. We have an offer out to him (probably not even close to what he wants) and it looks like the market has pretty much dried up.
Looks like your wish came true - Snelling has agreed to a one-year deal with Atlanta.
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I don't think the game he had in the playoffs against us is indicative of who he is as a player at this point, but we take something away from the Jets by signing him and defiantly add a useful player with this move. You gotta love it. I've always been a fan.
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I don't think the game he had in the playoffs against us is indicative of who he is as a player at this point, but we take something away from the Jets by signing him and defiantly add a useful player with this move. You gotta love it. I've always been a fan.
Definitely seems like he'll help out in the locker room as well. The Patriots have a lot of young defensive linemen who need a positive influence and role model, so that really helps. Hopefully he rubs off on Brace, Deaderick, etc.
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I don't think the game he had in the playoffs against us is indicative of who he is as a player at this point, but we take something away from the Jets by signing him and defiantly add a useful player with this move. You gotta love it. I've always been a fan.
Kind of sad to steal Jet players like Woodhead and Ellis just as a means to spite the Jets but I digress. What happened to using the Pats million of draft picks to develop starters/rotational players?

Lost a lot of respect for Ellis by joining the Pats. He is a decent situational DE at this point, the game vs the Pats was his lone breakout game. Wilkerson brings more at this point outside of experience.
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Patriots are visiting with former 49ers S Dashon Goldson today. Represented by Drew Rosenhaus, who the Patriots really like working with.
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DT - Ron Brace
DT - Landon Cohen
DT - Brandon Deadrick
DT - Shaun Ellis
DT - Albert Haynesworth
DT - Kyle Love
DT - Myron Pryor
DT - Darryl Richard
DT - Kade Weston
DT - Vince Wilfork
DT - Steve Williams
DT - Mike Wright

That's alot of depth.
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Yeah, he had a physical with them, I believe. Here's is what he has to say about physicals...
I'm sure he'll fit right in with the rest of the stoners on the team. What's your take on his level of play? From what I saw, has good size and is a big hitter. Can he man center field? How consistent is he?
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Kind of sad to steal Jet players like Woodhead and Ellis just as a means to spite the Jets but I digress. What happened to using the Pats million of draft picks to develop starters/rotational players?
Do you honestly think that? We've never really been about poaching players from you guys. Woodhead was an extremely valuable contributor to this team last year and should be one going forward for years to come. He's an excellent system fit for our offense and we more than likely considered him coming out in 2008.

Ellis is a guy who fits our defense in it's present state perfectly too. We're going to be lining up in multiple fronts this year more than ever and he's a guy who is more than capable of doing that without embarrassing himself.

But you're right. This is totally to spite the Jets. We totally wouldn't have gone after players like that if they were from the Panthers or Bears. All about spite.


As far as our draft picks go, a lot of them haven't panned out....which is why we've made a lot of these moves. Ron Brace isn't a good fit at DE despite all efforts. Myron Pryor is a good situational player, but nothing more in the end. Wright is coming off injuries and isn't a full time starter either. Deaderick has played well in spots, but his lack of athletic ability is a big problem. He's also had disciplinary issues with the team.
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I'm sure he'll fit right in with the rest of the stoners on the team. What's your take on his level of play? From what I saw, has good size and is a big hitter. Can he man center field? How consistent is he?
Consistency has been the issue. He has the size, speed, and hips to play both safety positions. The majority of his big hits have come in-the-box in run support, and he has shown an ability to provide good coverage in the deep half and an ability to break on the ball.

He has flashed signs of him being a top-level guy. Unfortunately for him he plays undisciplined a good deal of the time with both over-pursuit and bad angles. He's been heartbreaking at times because he'd come up and force a fumble and then on the next drive jump a route and have the ball go deep behind him.

He was a priority for the 49ers but they just refuse to pay him what he feels he's worth. He asked for Antrel Rolle money last season. I realize there's no market for that, now, but I don't doubt he still has a skewed perception as to how highly regarded he actually is around the League.

If you get him, you could have found a gem to shine up. Or he could just be another guy that flashes but never quites gets it.
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Do you honestly think that? We've never really been about poaching players from you guys. Woodhead was an extremely valuable contributor to this team last year and should be one going forward for years to come. He's an excellent system fit for our offense and we more than likely considered him coming out in 2008.

Ellis is a guy who fits our defense in it's present state perfectly too. We're going to be lining up in multiple fronts this year more than ever and he's a guy who is more than capable of doing that without embarrassing himself.

But you're right. This is totally to spite the Jets. We totally wouldn't have gone after players like that if they were from the Panthers or Bears. All about spite.


As far as our draft picks go, a lot of them haven't panned out....which is why we've made a lot of these moves. Ron Brace isn't a good fit at DE despite all efforts. Myron Pryor is a good situational player, but nothing more in the end. Wright is coming off injuries and isn't a full time starter either. Deaderick has played well in spots, but his lack of athletic ability is a big problem. He's also had disciplinary issues with the team.
To be fair, NOBODY thought Woodhead would contribute the way he did and the fact he was picked up after week 1 last year and right before Pats/Jets I would lead you to think he would be nothing more a guy to try and pick the brain under. I don't seriously think Belichick knew Woodhead would come on the way he did, he gave nobody any indication of doing it when as a Jet. Shoot Woodhead went undrafted......

Ellis doesn't have the burst anymore at this point but he can play the role of being an decent run stopper. Outside of the Pats game, a large part as to why the Jets could not get to the pass rusher(Outside of Calvin Pace underachieving, Vernon Gholston showing no heart and Bryan Thomas being Bryan Thomas) was because of Ellis lackluster play at times. Jason Taylor did more last year than Ellis.....it was just Ellis was money vs the Patriots in the playoffs last season in his only real good game.

I do think the Ellis move was a 1-Up by Belichick on Rex Ryan but its all fair game since the Jets didn't want to give Shaun a rewarding deal as a veteran. Mind games is what the Pats/Jets rivalry is all about and its no different here.

And the draft pick mention was just all about how the Pats could continue to miss on alot of their draft picks and have to resort to these signings from other teams to bring in their talent.
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