New and Improved Free Agency Discussion and News Mega-Thread - Page 205

niel89 · 08-24-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerBaron

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ry/rumor-mill/

Safety Roy Williams retires. One of the most overrated players ever? He made it to pro bowls by making big hits on the Cowboys...and not much else.

Good to see a guy leave when his body tells him to. Cool to see him do media work with his old college, lets hope that he can at least cover pregame.

BeerBaron · 08-24-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Eh. I understand. If Manning gets seriously injured their season is over. He is the Colts. So really, it's the difference between winning 5 games with Kerry Collins and 2 games with some other dude. I'm usually a "play to win the game" type of a guy, but when your franchise hasn't had a top 10 pick since Clinton was president, I understand.

But what about when just a couple of games are missed? As durable as a guy like Favre or Manning might be, a lot of it is just plain luck too. I understand your logic if he were to miss a whole season, but they should really have a better option on hand in case he just misses a few games.

Like, what if, as he's throwing, his hand comes down on the helmet of one of his lineman and he breaks a bone in it...misses 2-4 weeks. Those games in there could be the difference between being a top seed or missing the playoffs entirely. If you have a better backup, he might be able to keep you afloat. Curtis Painter would not keep the Colts afloat.

bearsfan_51 · 08-24-2011, 06:19 PM

I would take broken hand Manning over most backup QBs.

Hines · 08-24-2011, 06:24 PM

Cowboys and Orlando Scandrick agree to a 5 year, 27 million dollar contract extension with 10 million in guarentees.

http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/s...06250010886144

SolidGold · 08-24-2011, 06:29 PM

Kentwan Balmer cut from the seahawks after being shipped out of san fran last year...i remember laughing at that pick when it was made. Pretty big bust

M.O.T.H. · 08-24-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hines

Cowboys and Orlando Scandrick agree to a 5 year, 27 million dollar contract extension with 10 million in guarentees.

http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/s...06250010886144

What the ****? Where is this coming from? I know he had a good camp, but jesus.

CC.SD · 08-24-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scottyboy

old mediocre CB's for the win!

I guarantee Ty Law is calling the Giants right now.

phlysac · 08-24-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanHope

Collins can be good. All he needs is a dominant defense and an overpowering rushing attack...

Dominant defense and overpowering rushing attack??? I always thought it was Vince Young winning those games.

CC.SD · 08-24-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by phlysac

Dominant defense and overpowering rushing attack??? I always thought it was Vince Young winning those games.

winzzzzzz gamezzzz you mean

phlysac · 08-24-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CC.SD

winzzzzzz gamezzzz you mean

Ah, yes! He winzzzzzzzzzz gamezzzzzzzzzzz.

ElectricEye · 08-24-2011, 06:57 PM

HEZ JUESTZ WINZ GAEMZ

Collins can be adequate though. You aren't going to do much better for a pinch starter this late into the pre-season.

Giantsfan1080 · 08-24-2011, 06:59 PM

If you get him drinking again I think there's a real possibility you make the playoffs.

M.O.T.H. · 08-24-2011, 07:02 PM

He's still out there Colts...

LonghornsLegend · 08-24-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hines

Cowboys and Orlando Scandrick agree to a 5 year, 27 million dollar contract extension with 10 million in guarentees.

http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/s...06250010886144

Holy santa clause ****. Really Dallas? Because last year was such an amazing year we just had to have him back right? smh...

SuperMcGee · 08-24-2011, 07:43 PM

The Bills signed both Ruvell Martin and Kirk Morrison today.

thenewfeature06 · 08-24-2011, 07:47 PM

A little surprised Morrison wasn't scooped up earliar..

He is at least average.

PackerLegend · 08-24-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMcgee

The Bills signed both Ruvell Martin and Kirk Morrison today.

I always liked Ruvell Martin on the Packers... Thought he would get to go somewhere else where he could be more involved. Hasnt really turned out that way.

SuperMcGee · 08-24-2011, 07:55 PM

I'm glad we're giving it a shot. Barnett is the only one who has shown he deserves a spot in the middle. Andra Davis is far beyond his better days. Reggie Torbor blows. Arthur Moats is not a starter and hasn't looked as good as he did on the outside last year. There was hope that Kelvin Sheppard could come in and show the good stuff early so he could slot in there, but he missed pretty much all of training camp.

Splat · 08-24-2011, 08:00 PM

I'm surprised no one has signed Brian Waters.

I know he is 34 and his best football is behind him but I still feel he would be an upgrade for a few teams.

BeerBaron · 08-24-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat

I'm surprised no one has signed Brian Waters.

I know he is 34 and his best football is behind him but I still feel he would be an upgrade for a few teams.

Jerry Angelo would argue that signing a veteran just takes practice reps away from the developing youngsters, so he won't sign him.

SuperMcGee · 08-24-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerLegend

I always liked Ruvell Martin on the Packers... Thought he would get to go somewhere else where he could be more involved. Hasnt really turned out that way.

All of our receivers are injured and/or unproven. So, again, why not. I think we have what should be a better version of him in David Nelson, but anything is possible as long as Donald Jones is our #2.

BeerBaron · 08-24-2011, 08:18 PM

Wow, I didn't realize how connected Collins was to Indy:

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"I’ve got some pretty significant history with people in this organization, starting with Coach [Jim] Caldwell. He was my quarterbacks coach at Penn State for three years. The Polians, of course, drafted me when I was in Carolina. [Receivers coach] Frank Reich, I played with in Carolina. There’s a lot of significant ties here that made it real attractive to come here.”

Ness · 08-24-2011, 08:23 PM

Frank Reich was a receiver coach?

Unbiased · 08-24-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thenewfeature06

A little surprised Morrison wasn't scooped up earliar..

He is at least average.

At least average and never misses a game either. And I'm assuming after all this time, he must be getting a small 1 year contract, so it's a really good signing for the Bills. Anyone know why Moats is playing inside??

LonghornsLegend · 08-24-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat

I'm surprised no one has signed Brian Waters.

I know he is 34 and his best football is behind him but I still feel he would be an upgrade for a few teams.

I think he's better then Montrae Holland who is 1 projected starter for us tentatively. I figured he would be a great 1 year gap for us at LG to bring David Arkin and Nagy along slowly instead of starting them right away. I figured he would be high up on our list.