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Old 03-02-2012, 09:39 AM    (permalink
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Didn't they make it easier to trade with the franchise tag or was it now cheaper to apply?
It's now cheaper to apply. Players who are tagged have always been able to be traded but there are a few caveats iirc.

But yeah, it's cheaper now. Instead of the average of the top 5 salaries of the previous year at that position, it's now something like the average of the top 5 salaries for the previous 5 years.

At any rate, it's cheaper for every position and there's really no reason to not use it. Hell, it's be a cheaper than the base salary anyone worth applying it to would get on the open market.

I personally would have liked to see it go away completely, or be severely limited. Like, extremely costly to use and a one time deal only. If you franchised a player once, you can never franchise him again.

Alas. Now we have a watered down FA market and the threat of a dozen holdouts every year.
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Steelers cut Farrior

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Titans will not place their franchise tag on cornerback Cortland Finnegan, allowing him to become an unrestricted free agent.
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Titans will not place their franchise tag on cornerback Cortland Finnegan, allowing him to become an unrestricted free agent.
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Bowe will be tagged. I don't see how there is a way around it.. unless he decides to sign a long term deal beforehand.
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I think he goes the the Lou.
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Calais Campbell, Fred Davis and Ray Rice have all been franchise tagged today.
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Domenik Hixon re-signs with the Giants.
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I think he goes the the Lou.
It's a lock that Jeff Fisher will heavily pursue his goons.
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Breaking news: The Bengals dont know how to run their organization.
We tagged a kicker....again.
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Breaking news: The Bengals dont know how to run their organization.
We tagged a kicker....again.
Who else have you got to tag?
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Reggie Nelson?
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I love cortland, but it is dumb to pay him 10 mil a year. He is a great nickle corner and a shakey outside guy. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Reggie Nelson?
And is he worthy of whatever the tag is for safeties? Its not like you'd be losing Ed Reed.

You could still sign him anyway.
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I love cortland, but it is dumb to pay him 10 mil a year. He is a great nickle corner and a shakey outside guy. Nothing more, nothing less.
Shaky is the wrong word imo. Solid is more like it. Hes a good football player, just not elite and probably not worth elite money.
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And is he worthy of whatever the tag is for safeties? Its not like you'd be losing Ed Reed.

You could still sign him anyway.
Do you realize how bad our safeties outside of him were? Was he worth a tag? Probably not in terms of play, was he worth it in terms of not having Taylor Mays or Robert Sands start any either safety spot? YEP
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Do you realize how bad our safeties outside of him were? Was he worth a tag? Probably not in terms of play, was he worth it in terms of not having Taylor Mays or Robert Sands start any either safety spot? YEP
Well if he isn't worth the franchise tag don't give it him. Go out and draft Mark Barron to replace him and sign a cheaper free agent that has starting experience or a better safety than Nelson for the same price.

Its harsh to call Mike Brown stupid for not giving a player the franchise tag that is't worth it. Giving him the franchise tag would be stupid.
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Its harsh to call Mike Brown stupid for not giving a player the franchise tag that is't worth it. Giving him the franchise tag would be stupid.
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We have given our last 2 tags to kickers.
And we will likely lose Nelson in FA if he follows Kevin Coyle like he said he might.

Which leaves our hopes at safety hinging on:
A) Finding a gem in a ****** draft class
B) Signing one out of a not good FA class

We have the money. Overpaying Nelson would have been fine with me if it kept Robert ******* Sands from being a starter on this defense.
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We have given our last 2 tags to kickers.
And we will likely lose Nelson in FA if he follows Kevin Coyle like he said he might.

Which leaves our hopes at safety hinging on:
A) Finding a gem in a ****** draft class
B) Signing one out of a not good FA class

We have the money. Overpaying Nelson would have been fine with me if it kept Robert ******* Sands from being a starter on this defense.
And thats why you'd make a **** general manager lol. You'll overpay players and then end up with wasted money on underpeforming players.
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And thats why you'd make a **** general manager lol. You'll overpay players and then end up with wasted money on underpeforming players.
Overpaying Nelson makes me a bad general manager?
Right. And Im sure you're all sunshine and rainbows.
Nelson needs to be kept. We have nothing at safety.
Was he a top 5 safety last year? No but he was a damn good one. Worth the tag more than a ****** kicker.
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But you can probably resign Nelson for cheap. Which makes sense, bc tagging the kicking + signing Nelson is probably cheaper overall than tagging Nelson and resigning the kicker.

Get it?

You'll keep both guys and save money doing so in all likelihood. Reggie Nelson isn't exactly in high demand, I'm sure they'll work something out with him.
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But you can probably resign Nelson for cheap. Which makes sense, bc tagging the kicking + signing Nelson is probably cheaper overall than tagging Nelson and resigning the kicker.

Get it?

You'll keep both guys and save money doing so in all likelihood. Reggie Nelson isn't exactly in high demand, I'm sure they'll work something out with him.
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But you can probably resign Nelson for cheap. Which makes sense, bc tagging the kicking + signing Nelson is probably cheaper overall than tagging Nelson and resigning the kicker.

Get it?

You'll keep both guys and save money doing so in all likelihood. Reggie Nelson isn't exactly in high demand, I'm sure they'll work something out with him.
Except Nelson said he was likely gonna follow Coyle to Miami.
So to keep him, we will likely have to overpay anyways, or lose him to Miami.

Which puts us back with Sands as our starting FS.
And does anyone actually expect Brown to go out and sign a safety who would be better?
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