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Old 03-19-2012, 10:55 AM    (permalink
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More filed to ESPN: And now that Peyton Manning has directed his agent to get deal done with Denver, Broncos will try to trade Tim Tebow.
... Wow. Just wow.
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We have too many FAs coming up for us to trade and then sign Stewart for a long term contract.

If paying Stewart means Kenny Phillips, Corey Webster, Justin Tuck, Antrell Rolle, Michael Boley, Nicks, Chris Canty, etc walk out the door, I'll be upset.

We have to be real cheap and smart about how we budget our money over the next 3 years bc this roster is going to look very different within 2 years. Maybe even 1. Too many contracts coming up.
Meh. Just do what the Steelers are doing and restructure everyone. That apparently has no downside. Your front office is just as brilliant as theirs, right?

Additionally, the cap didn't go up much this year, but when the TV contract money starts coming in, it's expected to raise by $10-15 million starting next year. That will definitely help out some teams who are cutting it close.

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What is Stewart's current contract terms? That would factor in any trade.
I believe he is towards the tail end of his rookie deal, so he'll need a new contract. Hence the Panthers trading him since they can't reasonably afford two RBs being paid big bucks plus Tolbert who they just signed.
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Phillip Rivers is so screwed now.

He won't win the division for the next 4 years.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:59 AM    (permalink
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Let's try to keep the Manning talk in the Manning thread so I don't have to say the same things twice.
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Phillip Rivers is so screwed now.

He won't win the division for the next 4 years.
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The Giants aren't giving up a high pick for Stewart. Goes against Reese's MO.
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Phillip Rivers is so screwed now.

He won't win the division for the next 4 years.
You can see San Diego taking a pass rusher in the 1st round now
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... Wow. Just wow.
CALLED IT!!

LOLZ all the tits and 49ers fan arguing.

now we won't be able to see bro vs bro in NFCCG
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Additionally, the cap didn't go up much this year, but when the TV contract money starts coming in, it's expected to raise by $10-15 million starting next year. That will definitely help out some teams who are cutting it close.
That will only really help teams that sign, re-sign, and extend players in the next year. Anyone who wants an extension or needs to be re-signed once the cap goes up by 10% will just expect to get paid 10% more. If the Giants want to keep all of those guys around they'll need to start restructuring people now and extending the contracts of everyone else before the cap jumps to really be able to benefit from it.
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I don't think you can call this a bad move without contract details and without seeing what they do afterward.

Stewart would probably leave next year so I'm guessing they thought Tolbert would be a similar but cheaper option to backing up DeAngelo and they could trade Stewart right now.

My guess is that they want more picks on the draft to solidify the defense and offensive line. I wouldn't be surprised if they trade back in the draft in favor of having more picks.

John Fox just came at the possibility of getting Stewart. I'd actually be mad to see Stewart have to line up behind Tebow. EDIT nevermind, Stewart + Peyton would be a great combo.

EDIT #2 The thought of Tebow being traded for Stewart nearly made my heart stop. Please lord no...

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I agree, too bad they drafted Cam Newton so they won't be fired any time soon.
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My guess is Alex Smith and the 49ERS kiss and make up now.
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My guess is Alex Smith and the 49ERS kiss and make up now.
I was really looking forward to seeing if Kaepernick and Josh Johnson could show anything...darn.

Seriously.

We know what Smith is, and that is mediocre. Those other two might have crashed and burned but at least it was something different.
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One of the Giants beat writers is reporting that Manningham hasn't signed with the 49'ers yet.
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Who thinks J Stew ends up in Denver? 3 round pick sounds about right.
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Shefter kills it... Why do any other insiders even try to compete?
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Who thinks J Stew ends up in Denver? 3 round pick sounds about right.
There will be a lot of teams who would offer a hell of a lot more than that.
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One of the Giants beat writers is reporting that Manningham hasn't signed with the 49'ers yet.
Are you suggesting he's waiting to see how their QB situation plays out? That sounds way too intelligent for Mario. Must be at the advice of his agent.

"You mean I have to learn another playbook and play with a crap QB? Naaaaaaaa man."
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Are you suggesting he's waiting to see how their QB situation plays out? That sounds way too intelligent for Mario. Must be at the advice of his agent.

"You mean I have to learn another playbook and play with a crap QB? Naaaaaaaa man."
When did he ever learn the Giants playbook? His copy was one page and drawn in crayon. "Run as fast as you can towards the end zone."
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When did he ever learn the Giants playbook? His copy was one page and drawn in crayon. "Run as fast as you can towards the end zone."
I think by year 4 he finally got it. But then he got hurt a decent amount of the year.
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I think by year 4 he finally got it. But then he got hurt a decent amount of the year.
Ah, that must be when they added an extra page for that Superbowl sideline route. That's why it worked. The Patriots never saw it coming.
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Ah, that must be when they added an extra page for that Superbowl sideline route. That's why it worked. The Patriots never saw it coming.
He screwed up basically the same route earlier that game.
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There will be a lot of teams who would offer a hell of a lot more than that.
Really? For a running back who's run once for over 1000 yards and has a foot/heel problem that doesn't let him practice for half the season.
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Really? For a running back who's run once for over 1000 yards and has a foot/heel problem that doesn't let him practice for half the season.
He's missed two games in his career. He's 24 years old and averages 4.8 yards per carry while also contributing in the pass game. A team would definitely give up at least a second-round pick.
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I don't know. Teams don't value RBs anymore. Plus being a free agent diminishes his value. I probably agree with the 3rd rounder.
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