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Old 03-20-2012, 09:18 AM    (permalink
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Wimbley signs /w Tennessee... 5 years, $35m.
I thought that seemed like a lot at first, but he's a better player than I thought. He's only missed 2 starts in his career and seems to average int hat 6-7 sack a year range. Not a world beater, but solid.

Btw your sig and avatar confuse the hell out of me.
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For some reason I thought Wimbley was out of the league. It wasn't until I started researching free agency a few months ago that I realized he'd just been stuck in Oakland, and that he was actually doing ok.

Wimbley and Derrick Morgan don't exactly terrify me though. Not much of a pass rush.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:22 AM    (permalink
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For some reason I thought Wimbley was out of the league. It wasn't until I started researching free agency a few months ago that I realized he'd just been stuck in Oakland, and that he was actually doing ok.
I think I had him confused with Derrick Harvey, ha. Both were Raiders last year.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:25 AM    (permalink
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I thought that seemed like a lot at first, but he's a better player than I thought. He's only missed 2 starts in his career and seems to average int hat 6-7 sack a year range. Not a world beater, but solid.

Btw your sig and avatar confuse the hell out of me.
Haha ya I can see that... Barry is my favorite athlete of all time so I chose to put him in there, but at the same time, I wanted to make it at least somewhat known that I am still a Vikings fan. I was thinking about trying to get one of him at Ok. State to make things less conflicting.
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With Wimbley reportedly almost signed with Tennessee, that probably means Mark Anderson is down to Miami and Jacksonville.
As a Jaguars fan, I hope he signs with Miami.
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Wimbley is not worth that money. 4 of his 7 sacks came in 1 game last year vs a backup OT.
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I don't know why people keep throwing big contracts at him to be honest. He always disappoints.
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Wimbley is not worth that money. 4 of his 7 sacks came in 1 game last year vs a backup OT.
Not every team has a neverending supply of stud pass rushers just hanging around.

If there's one area you can afford to overpay, it's pass rushers.

(As long as they're not Ray Edwards...)
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Derrick Harvey played for Denver.
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As a Jaguars fan, I hope he signs with Miami.
You would rather stick with Chick as the sub rusher?
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Derrick Harvey played for Denver.
I think I confused Harvey with Quentin Groves then...

You know what, screw lousy pass rushers. I'm done trying to keep track.
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Derrick Harvey played for Denver.
Wasnt that Jarvis Moss?
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Apparently Logan Mankins tore his ACL at the end of last season, missed one game, and then played through the injury for the entire playoffs before undergoing surgery recently. Maybe Gallery is the stop-gap at LG if Mankins won't be ready for the start of the season.
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If there's one area you can afford to overpay, it's pass rushers.

(As long as they're not Ray Edwards...)
I'm looking at the finances of the move.

Vinny Curry will be a 2nd round draft pick that will get you 7 sacks a season (maybe more, maybe less) for about 500k a season.

Wimbley is 7 mill a season. That's a lot more coin for the same production.

To be fair, I'm the type that thinks 99% of RBs don't deserve extensions beyond their rookie deals. I want as little $$ tied to the RB position as possible. If I can have 3 RBs on the roster each making 400K a season, I'm fine with that.

You gotta be cheap about budgeting the cap. You can't pay for mediocre players. It gets you in cap hell.
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ACL injuries are such an odd thing. It seems like there is about a 50/50 shot of either barely noticing you're injured or writhing in horrible agony knowing damn well that you're injured.
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ACL injuries are such an odd thing. It seems like there is about a 50/50 shot of either barely noticing you're injured or writhing in horrible agony knowing damn well that you're injured.
Yeah, I believe Josh Chapman played through a torn ACL for some/most of last season as well. Then again, Logan Mankins is undeniably one of the most badass players in the NFL.
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ACL injuries are such an odd thing. It seems like there is about a 50/50 shot of either barely noticing you're injured or writhing in horrible agony knowing damn well that you're injured.
It may have something to do with if it was a complete tear or a partial tear. I haven't seen if they said Mankins was complete or not, but I would predict it was a partial tear.
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It seems like it would have to be a partial tear. A full tear would mean zero lateral movement in-game. Kind of important for a guard.
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It may have something to do with if it was a complete tear or a partial tear. I haven't seen if they said Mankins was complete or not, but I would predict it was a partial tear.
I've also heard that whether or not anything else tears (MCL, PCL, etc.) can also affect the pain.

That's why I'm always iffy when a guy injures his knee. He could be carted off for something that will only keep him out a few weeks, or he could limp off the field with a season ending injury.

Just because "he walked off under his own power," it doesn't mean he'll be fine. So that always terrifies me.
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I've also heard that whether or not anything else tears (MCL, PCL, etc.) can also affect the pain.

That's why I'm always iffy when a guy injures his knee. He could be carted off for something that will only keep him out a few weeks, or he could limp off the field with a season ending injury.

Just because "he walked off under his own power," it doesn't mean he'll be fine. So that always terrifies me.
Ya didn't Ballard walk off on his own in the SB? I remember them showing him attempting to run on the sideline and his knee just giving out. It is certainly hit or miss when it comes to knee injuries, so much can go wrong in such a small area.
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I know someone who has had a torn ACL since Christmas and he just found out it was fully torn about a week ago. He walked around on it for that whole time.
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Ya didn't Ballard walk off on his own in the SB? I remember them showing him attempting to run on the sideline and his knee just giving out. It is certainly hit or miss when it comes to knee injuries, so much can go wrong in such a small area.
You're right. He did look like he was in pain, but he didn't collapse in pain. He just fell down because he couldn't plant his foot.
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Wasnt that Jarvis Moss?
Yeah, he's thinking of Groves or Moss, who both played for Oakland last year. From what I read, Moss was fairly decent.
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I know someone who has had a torn ACL since Christmas and he just found out it was fully torn about a week ago. He walked around on it for that whole time.
You can say it was me. I tore my ACL 2.5 months ago. I was wasted at the time I did it. It hurt but not a lot, maybe because of the booze. Although I knew something was wrong right away. I couldn't walk on it at all for about 24 hours. But after that it got better. I just found out yesterday it's torn. You just lose stability. My knee has given out a couple of times since then and I've bitten it hard two times. If you're not an athlete you actually don't need it or have to get it fixed.

Dominik Hixon played on a torn ACL. He tore his on that circus catch on MNF week 2. Went back into the game only to find out the next day it's torn.
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