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Old 04-05-2012, 07:22 AM    (permalink
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The Bears are talking to FA Eric Steinbach.

If we sign him and he's even remotely close to an average player, he'll be an upgrade.
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Even if he's mediocre, with that OL, he'd be an upgrade...
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The Bears are talking to FA Eric Steinbach.

If we sign him and he's even remotely close to an average player, he'll be an upgrade.
He'll be good if he's healthy. Unfortunately, that's a huge if.
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:53 AM    (permalink
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He'll be good if he's healthy. Unfortunately, that's a huge if.
Him healthy at LG is definitely better than Chris Williams healthy at LG, and Chris Williams is arguably more oft-injured. So I'll take it.
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I wonder how much McNeill is asking for. The optimist in me thinks the Falcons will get him when he comes down to a realistic, heavily incentive based one year deal.
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McNeil's career is probably over. When you have a degenerative back condition, you're basically done once it gives out.

I wouldn't invest in him bc you can't trust him to stay healthy. No point in investing in a guy when there's a 80% chance he won't even be healthy enough to play.
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McNeil's career is probably over. When you have a degenerative back condition, you're basically done once it gives out.

I wouldn't invest in him bc you can't trust him to stay healthy. No point in investing in a guy when there's a 80% chance he won't even be healthy enough to play.
Not only that, but chronic conditions like that are unpredictable. He could be fine for a while, then come the playoff chase and important games he may not be able to move out of bed for weeks.

It's not even close to worth it for a team with playoff aspirations and a good QB. Take a tackle in the 2nd round with a normal back.
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Not only that, but chronic conditions like that are unpredictable. He could be fine for a while, then come the playoff chase and important games he may not be able to move out of bed for weeks.

It's not even close to worth it for a team with playoff aspirations and a good QB. Take a tackle in the 2nd round with a normal back.
Yup. It's not worth it. Not even as a vet minimum signing bc it gives you a false sense of security if he does play well and is healthy bc like you said, it can give out at any moment and screw you.
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Jackie Battle is still an FA, correct?
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He visited with the Chargers and I haven't heard anything about him since.
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He visited with the Chargers and I haven't heard anything about him since.
I know the Raiders already traded for Goodson, but I would love to see the Raiders pick up Battle if he could be had cheap. There's something synergistic about DMC for 20 touches and then bringing in a huge bruising back as the defense is worn down.
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Ladarius Webb just got ******* paid
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Yup. It's not worth it. Not even as a vet minimum signing bc it gives you a false sense of security if he does play well and is healthy bc like you said, it can give out at any moment and screw you.

We've already got Will Svitek though, who's "dependable"/a nice backup. Just can't deal with Sam Baker starting again.
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6 years, $50 million, $20 million guaranteed to be specific.
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I thought Baker was good? What happened since he was drafted?
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Well deserved. Webb's 2011 coverage stats (including playoffs):

56/102 (54.9%), 656 yards, 0 TD, 8 INT, 12 PD, 42.0 rating against

Webb is one of the league's top cover corners.
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He'll be good if he's healthy. Unfortunately, that's a huge if.
Steinbach hasn't been good since at least 2007. I wouldn't get excited over an injury-prone guy who hasn't produced for five years. He's one of the weakest run blockers in the league at guard and just average in pass protection.
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Steinbach hasn't been good since at least 2007. I wouldn't get excited over an injury-prone guy who hasn't produced for five years. He's one of the weakest run blockers in the league at guard and just average in pass protection.
If you can use the word "average" to describe an aspect of an o-lineman, he's better than anything the Bears currently have.
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6 years, $50 million, $20 million guaranteed to be specific.
Well there goes my wet dream of the offseason. I love Webb and he is well worth that money.
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If you can use the word "average" to describe an aspect of an o-lineman, he's better than anything the Bears currently have.
I understand the desperation but a player who is five years past his prime, 32 years old, and with serious back concerns is probably not worth it.
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I understand the desperation but a player who is five years past his prime, 32 years old, and with serious back concerns is probably not worth it.
If it's one a bare minimum deal, he's worth a shot. He really can't make the situation any worse.
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He visited with the Chargers and I haven't heard anything about him since.
If the Giant's can work out a cheap one or two year deal with him I would love that. Doesn't seem like we will be signing one more FAs though
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Vidae's basement has wifi
Not anymore it doesn't!
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