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Old 04-12-2012, 11:49 AM    (permalink
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any opinions on this? probably just a ST right?
Molden does a solid job on special teams and can provide depth on the outside but he was targeted pretty frequently when he was on the field and for good reason: he allowed a QBR against of almost 100 with nearly 10 YPA. He started losing snaps to guys like Julian Edelman towards the end of the year.
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We lost Devin Thomas, so Molden can be CB depth and fill in on special teams.
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Seahawks re-signed LeRoy Hill, a guy who for two straight offseasons killed his FA market by getting into stupid trouble. On the field, he's a very good player and the Seahawks got lucky again that he's a knucklehead.

The Seahawks now have just one positional need in terms of a starter (MLB).
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Seahawks re-signed LeRoy Hill, a guy who for two straight offseasons killed his FA market by getting into stupid trouble. On the field, he's a very good player and the Seahawks got lucky again that he's a knucklehead.

The Seahawks now have just one positional need in terms of a starter (MLB).
If Leroy Hill could stay healthy like he did last year, and stay out of trouble in the off season (although this time the drug charges were dropped) he would have been 1 of the most sought after free agents. The guy is unbelievably dumb, I was surprised he was brought back last year after his health problems and multiple arrests (drugs and domestic violence I believe). Then he has a solid year and blows it again by getting caught with weed.

He can blitz and blow up RBs with the best of them though.
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Good for us though...

DE: Red Bryant/Jason Jones
DT: Brandon Mebane
DT: Alan Branch/Jason Jones
DE: Chris Clemons/Dexter Davis

OLB: LeRoy Hill
MLB: Barrett Ruud
OLB: K.J. Wright

CB: Brandon Browner/Marcus Trufant
FS: Earl Thomas
SS: Kam Chancellor
CB: Richard Sherman/Walter Thurmond/Roy Lewis

Top ten unit right there when you add a DT/MLB/DE. YES!
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I still don't understand how Aaron Curry didn't work out for you guys in the 4-3.
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I still don't understand how Aaron Curry didn't work out for you guys in the 4-3.


Because he's terrible.
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Why do so many supposed "sure thing" 1st round (specifically top of 1st round) LBs fail to live up to expectations? Aaron Curry, AJ Hawk (to a certain extent), Bobby Carpenter and Ernie Sims come to mind. Keith Rivers as well but you could probably blame that one on injuries. Sure there are some exceptions (Willis, Cushing) but it's kind of troubling. I still have a huge mancrush on Kuechly but he might be riskier than people are making him out to be.
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Because he's terrible.
Seemed to do okay with the Raiders in limited time.
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Why do so many supposed "sure thing" 1st round (specifically top of 1st round) LBs fail to live up to expectations? Aaron Curry, AJ Hawk (to a certain extent), Bobby Carpenter and Ernie Sims come to mind. Keith Rivers as well but you could probably blame that one on injuries. Sure there are some exceptions (Willis, Cushing) but it's kind of troubling. I still have a huge mancrush on Kuechly but he might be riskier than people are making him out to be.
most of those guys are 43 LBs and their draft position never really created the production to match it in the 43. Timmons was a WILL prospect but bulked up and moved inside in our 34. Beason is a beast in a 43 though at pretty much all positions.

i liked aaron curry and rivers as 34 guys personally
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...anard-jackson/

Tanard Jackson signs with Washington.
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Why do so many supposed "sure thing" 1st round (specifically top of 1st round) LBs fail to live up to expectations? Aaron Curry, AJ Hawk (to a certain extent), Bobby Carpenter and Ernie Sims come to mind. Keith Rivers as well but you could probably blame that one on injuries. Sure there are some exceptions (Willis, Cushing) but it's kind of troubling. I still have a huge mancrush on Kuechly but he might be riskier than people are making him out to be.
Very true. I always felt that linebackers (4-3) have one of the easier translations to the NFL but I'm starting to think otherwise.
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I wonder why no one has picked up Mike Wallace Yet?Greedy bastard .
Wallace is a fine wr but giving up a first and $10 mil per year is a lot, especially when there are plenty of good wrs available in the draft.
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GUYS THE GIANTS BROUGHT CHASE BLACKBURN BACK SO EVERYTHING IS OK NOW.

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GUYS THE GIANTS BROUGHT CHASE BLACKBURN BACK SO EVERYTHING IS OK NOW.

so happy
Excellent!! No LB for us in the draft.
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London Fletcher re-signs with Skins:
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The Goff workout must have scared him.
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The Goff workout must have scared him.
We are thin at ILB regardless. What can you guys tell me about Goff? I still think we sign him as well I just don't know much about him.
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We are thin at ILB regardless. What can you guys tell me about Goff? I still think we sign him as well I just don't know much about him.
Run stuffer and not much else. Very smart and uses that to his benefit. Think Pierce but not as good.
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also coming off a torn ACL.

and he's no Chase.

chase chase chase chase chase
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Run stuffer and not much else. Very smart and uses that to his benefit. Think Pierce but not as good.
I liked what I saw watching film on him and I think he could benefit greatly learning from Fletcher for the next 2-3 years.
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Why do so many supposed "sure thing" 1st round (specifically top of 1st round) LBs fail to live up to expectations? Aaron Curry, AJ Hawk (to a certain extent), Bobby Carpenter and Ernie Sims come to mind. Keith Rivers as well but you could probably blame that one on injuries. Sure there are some exceptions (Willis, Cushing) but it's kind of troubling. I still have a huge mancrush on Kuechly but he might be riskier than people are making him out to be.
Bc most "sure thing" prospects are high floor low ceiling guys with limited athleticism. They're typically guys who are already very sound technique wise and well coached, so you know what you're getting with them.

The problem with that is, when you have a low ceiling, you generally wind up being a JAG in the NFL. At the end of the day, the great players in this league outside of the qb position typically have elite athleticism to go with great football instincts.

If you're not athletic, there's only so much you can do on the football field. That's why we see so many workout warriors get drafted so high. You have to have a certain level of athleticism to succeed in this league.
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bigbluedefense is spot on; size/athleticism/intelligence reveal a player's perceived ceiling, while some prospects are much farther along developmentally and can help teams which are ready to complete now or need an immediate fix.
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I'm thinking that Hawk simply stopped juicing. That guy was crazy-good at tOSU, he absolutely lit up the combine (40" VJ, 3.96 20-yard shuttle, 6.82 3-cone), and you don't see any of that in the NFL.
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