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That's why it's so hard to understand trades for a 1st round pick. You give up so much, AND pay him. They could have signed nearly any WR in FA for what they gave Percy, and they gave up a 1st on top of that.

Seattle's really going all-in, they've got a 3-4 year window with the current players in place but could extend that with the right moves as long as Wilson and Carrol are there.
3 year window is about it. Having a good starting caliber QB who is cheap is the fastest way to get deep into the playoffs.
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3 year window is about it. Having a good starting caliber QB who is cheap is the fastest way to get deep into the playoffs.
How do you guys randomly put a # on how long a window is for a team with a franchise QB that isn't even in his mid 20's yet? Come on...If you have a franchise QB you don't have a 2-4 year window, that doesn't even make sense to me. It's not like Seattle is trotting out a ton of 33 year old players and after 3 years their cap is going to evaporate.
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How do you guys randomly put a # on how long a window is for a team with a franchise QB that isn't even in his mid 20's yet? Come on...If you have a franchise QB you don't have a 2-4 year window, that doesn't even make sense to me. It's not like Seattle is trotting out a ton of 33 year old players and after 3 years their cap is going to evaporate.
They have a 3 year window of the team as they know it. We all know what happens when a franchise QB becomes a free agent. They suddenly need to be a top 5 paid QB in the league and teams will pay it. Even if he asks to be a top 10 paid QB that's going to be 10x as much.
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Lets pump the brakes on the Russell Wilson is a franchise QB thing. He looks like he's on the right path, but he's essentially played 8-10 games where he was asked to do anything. Things can change very quickly, he's had a great start to his career, but he's hardly a lock for great things.


Worrying about how long Seattle's window is going to last because of Russell Wilson potentially getting a mega-deal 3 years down the road is very premature.

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Lets pump the breaks on the Russell Wilson is a franchise QB thing. He looks like he's on the right path, but he's essentially played 8-10 games where he was asked to do anything. Things can change very quickly, he's had a great start to his career, but he's hardly a lock for great things.


Worrying about how long Seattle's window is going to last because of Russell Wilson potentially getting a mega-deal 3 years down the road is very premature.


How dare you think a man that handsome would not continue his reign of dominance. All hail Russell Wilson.
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Lets pump the breaks on the Russell Wilson is a franchise QB thing. He looks like he's on the right path, but he's essentially played 8-10 games where he was asked to do anything. Things can change very quickly, he's had a great start to his career, but he's hardly a lock for great things.


Worrying about how long Seattle's window is going to last because of Russell Wilson potentially getting a mega-deal 3 years down the road is very premature.
Joe Flacco got one so all he needs to be is average.
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Eh, it's a LB, all we need him to do is not **** up about half the tackles that'll come to him, Jaquain and Rivers will be the nickelbackers until Rivers gets hurt. If we keep our core, address LE, LG and DB early in the draft we'll be fully capable of making another run.
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Didn't Mark Herzlich play at an acceptable level for you last year?
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He did not unfortunately...
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he was so bad that I made terrible jokes on twitter about him.
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How do you guys randomly put a # on how long a window is for a team with a franchise QB that isn't even in his mid 20's yet? Come on...If you have a franchise QB you don't have a 2-4 year window, that doesn't even make sense to me. It's not like Seattle is trotting out a ton of 33 year old players and after 3 years their cap is going to evaporate.

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The reason I said that is there are some contracts that will run at around this time, in addition, others will hit extreme numbers to where cuts/restructures may be needed.

Again, please read the entire post
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Lets pump the breaks on the Russell Wilson is a franchise QB thing. He looks like he's on the right path, but he's essentially played 8-10 games where he was asked to do anything. Things can change very quickly, he's had a great start to his career, but he's hardly a lock for great things.


Worrying about how long Seattle's window is going to last because of Russell Wilson potentially getting a mega-deal 3 years down the road is very premature.
"brakes"

But that's not even close to why thats there window. Look at the roster and the salaries
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Brandon Myers is a great signing by the Giants. Really, I don't know why anyone would sign Keller over him.
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He's steady but unspectacular. He was Palmer's outlet last year because the offensive line was so darn bad so his numbers were inflated as a result.

Zach Miller was a much better all-around TE for the Raiders than Myers.
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It was acceptable for a special teamer, but unless he gets back a lot more of what he lost this summer he'd be even worse than Chase. Giants' MIKEs be mediocre, yo.
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Grimes and Haden would be a nice tandem if Grimes returned to pre injury form.
Yup. That would be a great duo in Cleveland.
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But how likely is Grimes to return to form? I liked him a lot a couple years ago.
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