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He played pretty well when the Saints won the superbowl, it's part of why I thought he may be a cheap depth piece at DT for the Titans with Gregg Williams now on the team.

I think most thought he was overdrafted anyways, but I still had him as a mid first
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What happened to big Sedric?
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He just never really grew into being a player, and I'm guessing never loved the game and put forth the extra effort needed.
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Was Gilmore that good last year? I didn't really see him play.
We really threw him into the fire and he looked foolish in the beginning a few times, but he really was terrific the whole 2nd half and defended every teams #1 man to man.
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We really threw him into the fire and he looked foolish in the beginning a few times, but he really was terrific the whole 2nd half and defended every teams #1 man to man.
thats how revis was too...moss made him look foolish his first game of his rookie year and he was just never very good the first half but something clicked in the second half of the year
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Matt Ryans new deal is done, 59 mill guaranteed: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/95...on-sources-say
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This has to make Jay Cutler extremely happy. If he puts together a good season he will have the Bears bent over hard next year.
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This has to make Jay Cutler extremely happy. If he puts together a good season he will have the Bears bent over hard next year.
Just to not let him walk I guess he'd have control, but Cutler isn't on par with Ryan at all.

QBs seem to really hold all the leverage. Teams are so afraid of being turned into one of the teams that have been searching for a QB forever that they are willing to overpay slightly above average starters
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If the Bears do what they are supposed to do on offense this year + make playoffs - Jay will get a very similar deal. IMO.
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I am not suggesting that Cutler is on the same level as Ryan. But Ryan's new contract will bolster the franchise value of QB's. The Bears will be faced with a franchise tag price of something like $20 million for Cutler. This gives him a lot of leverage.
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Cardinals sign Eric Winston & John Abraham, Winston 1 year, Abraham 2
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I feel like the Cardinals are playing free agency the right way this offseason. They're not trying to bring in top-tier free agents, but they're taking established veterans to fill their biggest holes. They've had a good amount of home-grown talent for years, but it always seems like they've got some huge deficiency which screws them.
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I really like Arizona's team next year. I think Palmer has more left in the tank than he showed last season with Oakland. If Mendenhall has life in his legs, and add in the improved O-line, I like their offense a lot.

Their defense will depend on if they get pass rush from Abraham. Dockett in the middle is still solid, and I like their DB's.
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They've got options at running back, too. Think Andre Ellington's their 4th-best running back, and a lot of people really like him. Mendenhall obviously has the potential to be pretty good. Ryan Williams is sort of the wildcard of the group, and Stepfan Taylor's probably the closest thing this draft had to Alfred Morris. I'm pretty confident he can at least do 3 yards and a cloud of dust consistently.
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I liked Ryan Williams but he seemed mentally out of it last year coming back from injury. You could tell he was running not to get hurt and then he got hurt again. I'm not sure how he'll bounce back from that.


I do like Ellington as well.
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Yeah, Ryan Williams was sort of odd to watch last year. He really looked like he didn't want to get hit. I seem to remember him even saying as much in an interview or something - saying that he didn't trust his knee yet and was playing scared. Doesn't help when you're running behind the worst O-line in the league. I expect their line to make a big jump this year, though, and I keep saying that. Not to the best in the league, but they should at least rise from the bottom to the middle. If he can get his confidence back I think Williams might be their best back, but that's a big "if."
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Also, just realized Ryan Williams hasn't had a healthy season since his RS Freshman year. Had hamstring issues as a sophomore before coming out, tore his ACL as a rookie and then only managed to play in 5 games last year.
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I like everything in Arizona except for the QB and OL. Palmer has been brutal and he will get destroyed behind that OL. Their defense is great. The whole NFCW has great defenses, but Palmer behind that OL is gonna suck. Levi Brown is bad. Winston will help though.

Stepfan Taylor bout to get those meat and potatoes yards.
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OL depends a lot on if Potter/Massie/Brown can play LT

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Speaking of the Cards, rookie WR Ryan Swope retired before his career really started due to concussions: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...to-concussions
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too bad but thats part of the risk. just too bad he could have had a decent career
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I feel like the Cardinals are playing free agency the right way this offseason. They're not trying to bring in top-tier free agents, but they're taking established veterans to fill their biggest holes. They've had a good amount of home-grown talent for years, but it always seems like they've got some huge deficiency which screws them.
Yeah, a legitimate quarterback. Hell, even a decent one.
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