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Old 02-25-2014, 07:41 PM    (permalink
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I'd take Harbaugh over Reid any day. He turned the 49ers around immediately and have already built them into a perennial contender. 41-14-1 in your first three years of coaching, including five playoff wins, a Super Bowl appearance, an additional NFC Championship appearance, and two division titles. Reid's teams have always been plagued by poor clock management, discipline issues, etc. Maybe the sample size isn't as large, but I'm more confident that Harbaugh will win a title over the rest of his career than Reid will.
Maybe but by this argument, you would then take Carroll over Harbaugh. Two division titles, one NFC championship but most important, a Super Bowl title.

Harbaugh had a great roster already. He just managed to put it all together. You can also say that if Baalke wasnt there and didnt draft Davis and Iupati in 2010, the 49ers offense (especially rushing) would be worse than what it currently is.

Poor clock management, discipline issues, etc.???? Hmmm, are you sure you're talking about Reid or did you just re-watch 49ers games over the last three seasons?
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Maybe but by this argument, you would then take Carroll over Harbaugh. Two division titles, one NFC championship but most important, a Super Bowl title.

Harbaugh had a great roster already. He just managed to put it all together. You can also say that if Baalke wasnt there and didnt draft Davis and Iupati in 2010, the 49ers offense (especially rushing) would be worse than what it currently is.

Poor clock management, discipline issues, etc.???? Hmmm, are you sure you're talking about Reid or did you just re-watch 49ers games over the last three seasons?
Reid's teams are horrid with clock mgt. I can back that up.
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Saffold came out today and said he DOES NOT want to play Right Tackle for any team. He wants to play Left Tackle or Guard.
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Greg Jones (FB, HST): The Bears not only like using a fullback, but they need to do something about their failure to pick up first downs on short yardage.
They were 7th in the league at converting. Does that really need fixing?

...and they only used a fullback on 22% of their snaps.

...and they just gave their fullback a two year extension. No one is going to carry two.

Reminds me of those mock drafts where a guy gives a player to a team for no reason other than "hey, he has to go somewhere, right?" and then just makes up a blurb out of thin air without really looking for the facts. It works great until someone who knows a team really well reads it. ;)

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Saffold came out today and said he DOES NOT want to play Right Tackle for any team. He wants to play Left Tackle or Guard.


Not sure what's wrong with RT. He should stick to OG. He could play LT until Long is 100%, then move to OG permanently. Rams should take Robinson and play him at the other OG until Long is done is a couple years

Long - Robinson - Somebody - Saffold - Barksdale

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Not sure what's wrong with RT. He should stick to OG. He could play LT until Long is 100%, then move to OG permanently. Rams should take Robinson and play him at the other OG until Long is done is a couple years

Long - Robinson - Somebody - Saffold - Barksdale

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I am sorry, but if you draft Robinson to play guard and start Long over him at LT then the entire St Louis coaching staff should be fired. Even having Barksdale starting at RT over him is facepalm.
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I don't think Harbaugh really turned them around. They already had Gore,Crabtree,Staley,Iupati,Davis,Davis,J.Smith,Wi llis,Bowman,Whitner,Goldson,Brooks and Mcdonald at that point and were in the process of drafting A.Smith and Kap.

He walked into a ready made team and got more credit than he deserved. He didn't turn Alex Smith around, Smith finally had some stability, some help and his health.

I like Harbaugh, but I don't think they'll fall apart without him. Go get someone solid and you'll be fine.
Harbaugh turned us around. We had talent before, but we went nowhere because the coaching was inadequate. Mostly during the Singletary era. Harbaugh got the best out of Alex Smith. Something no one else could do up to that point. Aldon Smith and Colin Kaepernick were drafted after Harbaugh was hired. It's unknown how much influence he had on those selections.

Replacing a top notch coach is a lot harder than it looks. Cowboys fans know this pretty well.
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I am sorry, but if you draft Robinson to play guard and start Long over him at LT then the entire St Louis coaching staff should be fired. Even having Barksdale starting at RT over him is facepalm.
I don't look at it like that.

I look at it like....Robinson can play Guard, Barksdale can't. Why create a hole on the Offensive Line when you don't need to. If we draft Robinson or Matthews I have no doubt their future is as a LT with the Rams, but in 2014 the position they would be playing would be guard.
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just saw an article about how due to the FO situation, this is a 'make or break' year for Harbaugh in SF. Yeah, okay. Talk about laughable. 3 straight NFC championships not enough, hm, and a Super Bowl? Take it from a fan who watched Boss Ross got escorted out of town after a Super Bowl appearance because the owners liked the GM more: don't underestimate coaching's impact on success.
Some 49ers beat writers think Harbaugh is the kind of guy who will cause friction with any personnel guy he works with. Which means, if our HC keeps getting into clashes with our GM, we'd have to recycle GM's every few years. Thats assuming we find a good GM who wants to work with Harbaugh, under the realization that they would lose out in any future power struggle.

If Harbaugh would play nice with any future GM, that would work. But keep in mind Harbaugh and Baalke were BFF's in 2011, even going hiking together. Now they're supposedly in a standoff. So its not a matter of if, its a matter of when he pushes out the next GM, if we happen to choose him.

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Hakeem Nicks (WR, NYG): The Saints like playing with 4-WR sets, but an injury to Joe Morgan and a dropoff in production by Lance Moore cut down on using the spread last season.
Our 4 WR sets were not normally 4 WR's.... Graham and one of Sproles or Thomas was split out if there was a no back set. Nick Toon is set to come back after a injured year.

That being said, if Nicks doesn't want mega money I wouldn't be opposed to it.
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This doesn't make much sense at all. Meriweather can't cover ****. Rams already have their Heavy hitter in TJ Mcdonald. They need someone who can play Centerfield.
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Harbaugh turned us around. We had talent before, but we went nowhere because the coaching was inadequate. Mostly during the Singletary era. Harbaugh got the best out of Alex Smith. Something no one else could do up to that point. Aldon Smith and Colin Kaepernick were drafted after Harbaugh was hired. It's unknown how much influence he had on those selections.

Replacing a top notch coach is a lot harder than it looks. Cowboys fans know this pretty well.
I can think of 2 cases where the HC got fired because of egos and the team went into the tank. Of course, the Cowboys with Johnson and San Diego with Shotty. Your right, replacing a solid HC is very hard, I'd fire the GM first.
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I can see letting Harbaugh leave if it's a money issue. But if you are the owner or GM and want to run him out of town just because of a clash of egos, that is an inexcusable situation that should never happen.

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Was that short yardage or third down conversion in general? I live in northern Illinois and I heard the anger of fans and radio hosts over the Bears being continuously stopped on 3rd-and-1 or 4th-and-1.
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Harbaugh turned us around. We had talent before, but we went nowhere because the coaching was inadequate. Mostly during the Singletary era. Harbaugh got the best out of Alex Smith. Something no one else could do up to that point. Aldon Smith and Colin Kaepernick were drafted after Harbaugh was hired. It's unknown how much influence he had on those selections.

Replacing a top notch coach is a lot harder than it looks. Cowboys fans know this pretty well.
Singletary is the worst coach in NFL history, so you're looking through rose tinted glasses here.
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While you can't have too many pass rushers, the Vikings drafted Williams' replacement last year in Sharrif Floyd.
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Jimmy Graham wants 12 million a year.

How much did you expect him to ask for? $12 million is market value for him. That's what Mike Wallace got last year, and Graham is a hell of a lot better than Wallace. They'll franchise him, but he's going to win his grievance to be paid like a WR.
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How much did you expect him to ask for? $12 million is market value for him. That's what Mike Wallace got last year, and Graham is a hell of a lot better than Wallace. They'll franchise him, but he's going to win his grievance to be paid like a WR.
I expect him to get paid like the position he is. 12 million is top 5 WR money. He's not worth that. He disappears in big games and the second you're physical with him off the line he's done.
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