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I assume they mean "former model", considering that she's over 30. Models are like running backs; when they reach 30, nobody wants to give them work anymore. In the case of modeling, it's unfair.
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The Eagles may need to find themselves a replacement right tackle for the first four games of the regular season.

Paul Domowitch of the Philadelphia Daily News reports that tackle Lane Johnson faces a four-game suspension for violating the league’s performance enhancing drug policy. If the suspension goes through as reported, Johnson would miss games against the Jaguars, Colts, Redskins and 49ers before returning for a Week Five date with Chris Long, Robert Quinn and the Rams.
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Already Lane? Someone got him the hookup but didn't cover him. I can see why he was trying to bulk up a bit. He needed more on his frame.
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Already Lane? Someone got him the hookup but didn't cover him. I can see why he was trying to bulk up a bit. He needed more on his frame.
Don't trip. Lane was on the gear at OU. He finally got caught by the NFL.

LJ put on roughly 60# after converting from TE to OT as a Sooner and got even MORE athletic.
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Hell I'd take any needle you have to go #4. Well worth it.
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Well now that he has the bulk, he doesn't need to do it anymore right? Now he just has to properly diet and exercise to maintain his mass and speed right?

I don't know much about it, but I heard guys use the stuff to bulk up but then can get off it and just workout to maintain their new size?

either that or just do hgh cycles no?
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Well now that he has the bulk, he doesn't need to do it anymore right? Now he just has to properly diet and exercise to maintain his mass and speed right?

I don't know much about it, but I heard guys use the stuff to bulk up but then can get off it and just workout to maintain their new size?

either that or just do hgh cycles no?

I think you're right. After you get that initial muscle weight gain, the normal NFL weight training and conditioning regimen along with a high macro-calorie diet should help you keep your gains year round until you retire.

THe problem IMO for some guys is that PED use can become psychologically addictive. Some players think they need this stuff more than they do, or that they need to do an obligatory cycle every offseason to stay competitive.
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When an MLB star gets caught juicing, he's chased down by irate villagers with torches like Frankenstein's Monster and want him banned for life. When an NFL player uses PEDs, fans only care about who's replacing him for four games. I guess it's because baseball fans hold home run records in such high esteem.

Dallas signed ILB/criminal Rolando McClain. You knew it would be either them or the Bengals.

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And another top 5 pick from last year bites the dust. Dion Jordan suspended for 4 games next year, for PED violations.
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WR Brazill from the Colts got busted for a year this time. I actually liked him too. Now Rogers and Moncrief will get less competition.


Baseball is more about the history and the stats. They really are big on protecting both.
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Well now that he has the bulk, he doesn't need to do it anymore right? Now he just has to properly diet and exercise to maintain his mass and speed right?

I don't know much about it, but I heard guys use the stuff to bulk up but then can get off it and just workout to maintain their new size?

either that or just do hgh cycles no?
Not exactly...i know guys who do it, they turn in pipsqueaks when they go off of them
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So Davis won't get crap now right ? Unless he performs at a high level in the receiving end this season.. He needs to show up at camp asap. So does Boone.
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Joe Staley extended for two more years. Showing up pays off. Take notes Boone.

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The 49ers announced a two-year contract extension for offensive tackle Joe Staley through 2019. It's a surprising move because Staley was already signed through 2017, but both sides clearly believed he was due for an upgrade. Staley signed a six-year extension back in 2009, but he now looked underpaid with "only" $7.2 million combined over the next two seasons.

The move could potentially free up salary cap space and it stands in stark opposition to guard Alex Boone's situation. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport has reported that Boone is preparing to hold out of training camp if he doesn't get a long-term deal. Guard Mike Iupati is entering a contract year,

Teams speak with actions, not press conferences. This move is a clear sign the 49ers value Staley ahead of his offensive line counterparts on the inside.
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Gosh that must be nice.
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If I was Boone I absolutely would not show up to training camp. The man has been in the league since 2009. He's 27 and has a couple of big years under his belt, yet he has a contract that without him hitting his escalators would have paid him barely above the minimum. He has 2 more years left on his deal which will take him to 29 if his contract isn't renegotiated. Good luck securing a big contract at that point.

Right now is when he has the most leverage. Next year the 49ers can draft someone to replace him and tell him to just play it out in 2015. By sitting out now when the 49ers dont have a good backup plan he can force the issue. Plus from a team perspective signing a guy to a big deal when he has a couple of years left on his current low salary deal is perfect to spread out bonus money.

Right now it's unlikely Boone's value is going to go up, so he should force the Niners to play ball now.
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This just in guys the Packers had injuries.
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If I was Boone I absolutely would not show up to training camp. The man has been in the league since 2009. He's 27 and has a couple of big years under his belt, yet he has a contract that without him hitting his escalators would have paid him barely above the minimum. He has 2 more years left on his deal which will take him to 29 if his contract isn't renegotiated. Good luck securing a big contract at that point.

Right now is when he has the most leverage. Next year the 49ers can draft someone to replace him and tell him to just play it out in 2015. By sitting out now when the 49ers dont have a good backup plan he can force the issue. Plus from a team perspective signing a guy to a big deal when he has a couple of years left on his current low salary deal is perfect to spread out bonus money.

Right now it's unlikely Boone's value is going to go up, so he should force the Niners to play ball now.

When he signed that extenstion he wasn't even a starter. Hell, he wasn't even the primary back-up anywhere on the line. They gave him that extenstion based on his potential going forward, not based on anything he had done prior to. And it was a decent extenstion for a UDFA who was barely active on gamedays. Staley was under paid quite a bit by LT standards, for a majority of his last extenstion. But he never complained, remained professional and went about his work as he always had. There's no coincidence that they chose to get a deal done now. Its a clear message to how they contact business.

Boone absolutely deseves a raise but trying to punk Baalke is not how you go about it. They were working on Staley's extenstion for over a year. There's a pecking order to these things and Boone is trying to jump the line, forcing Baalke to make him a priority when other guys needed to be taken care. I think if Boone would have shown up to the off-season stuff and let negotiations go on behind the scenes, he would have been next up after Staley to get an extenstion. Even before Iupati and Crabs. 27 for a O-Lineman is like 23 for a RB. Good O-Lineman can play well into their 30s. And there's always a back-up plan. That's why they went and traded for Johnathan Martin, who is getting extensive looks at OG as well as OT. Its why they drafted Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas this year. Its why Joe Looney was drafted in 2012 and is the heir apparent if this Boone thing drags out. There is no leverage for Boone because while he has played well, he's not some irreplaceable, offensive cog in our scheme. He's an above average RG. Boone's true value is that he can play both tackle spots at a above average level. That's really where his value lies. Not so much that he's this 'awesome' guard, who's play can't be readily duplicated with good talent.

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Ok I'll take your points one by one:

1) Every offensive lineman ages differently. 2 years ago Michael Stewart, Carl Nicks, and Eric Winston were close to the top of their professions. All were in their mid-late 20's and they all got paid. Can you imagine how much different their financial situation would be if they waited 2 years to get paid? I won't fault a guy who has been underpaid for multiple years, for forcing the issue because teams dont love to hand away money that they're not contractually obligated to pay.

2) Joe Staley and Alex Boone's situations are entirely different, they're not even worth comparing. Staley was a 1st round pick who got his contract renegotiated 2 years into his career that handed him $11 million in a lump sum which kept his contract artificially low in recent years.

Alex Boone when he got his extension had been a practice squad player a couple of years before which greatly reduced his earnings. He had little career earnings to that point, and his NFL future depended on the 49ers giving him a shot to play. He signed that contract which any of us would have done, but he also greatly outperformed that contract. Now he needs to cash in. The 49ers have already received 2 years of value out of that deal, and would be perfectly content to let 2 more years happen.

3) He gains more by forcing the issue. What is the best way to earn a raise? To rely on goodwill, or by using the potential of losing you as leverage to get that raise. Sure things are cleaner if the employer pays up on its own, but why wait?

You may say things will work out with Joe Looney, but that's a pretty big assumption to make. 4th round picks on average are not quality starters in year 2, and Martin is quite literally an average Tackle coming off a mental breakdown, Boone is a much better option than either of them. The margin for error with the Niners is quite low this year considering their division. He could be the difference especially since you're going to be breaking in a new center as well.

Boone has everything to gain by holding out. The man deserves to be paid, and should be paid now.

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Of course he can TRY to force the issue. We'll see how far that goes though. I just don't see how you force Baalke to do anything when has a myrid of options at his disposal and he in all llikelihood, knew a holdout was coming. We have talent at OG position behind Boone. That talent is just unproven. But then again, so was Boone two years ago when he became a first time starter. He loses more by staying away, getting fined and letting young talent have a opportunity to get valuable reps and shine in his absence. I understand his stance. And he will get his money eventually from someone. Whether its the Niners remains to be seen.
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Of course he can TRY to force the issue. We'll see how far that goes though. I just don't see how you force Baalke to do anything when has a myrid of options at his disposal and he in all llikelihood, knew a holdout was coming. We have talent at OG position behind Boone. That talent is just unproven. But then again, so was Boone two years ago when he became a first time starter. He loses more by staying away, getting fined and letting young talent have a opportunity to get valuable reps and shine in his absence. I understand his stance. And he will get his money eventually from someone. Whether its the Niners remains to be seen.
Even if the latter situation happens, he'll just get traded. Anything is better than playing and risking getting hurt or declining. Roger Saffold just got a 5 year $31 million contract this year. That's the benchmark for Boone. Based on where he is right now he'll get that contract whether he plays or not. I'd risk that $2.5 million to get the $30 million deal.
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If I was Boone I absolutely would not show up to training camp. The man has been in the league since 2009. He's 27 and has a couple of big years under his belt, yet he has a contract that without him hitting his escalators would have paid him barely above the minimum. He has 2 more years left on his deal which will take him to 29 if his contract isn't renegotiated. Good luck securing a big contract at that point.

Right now is when he has the most leverage. Next year the 49ers can draft someone to replace him and tell him to just play it out in 2015. By sitting out now when the 49ers dont have a good backup plan he can force the issue. Plus from a team perspective signing a guy to a big deal when he has a couple of years left on his current low salary deal is perfect to spread out bonus money.

Right now it's unlikely Boone's value is going to go up, so he should force the Niners to play ball now.
But the 49ers DO have a backup plan. Teams sadly plan for holdouts. They probably knew about this before the draft. Anyways, there is probably a reason why we took guys like Marcus Martin and Brandon Thomas. Either can play guard. And Johnathan Martin is a backup along with Joe Looney. Boone can hold out if he wants. I do think he deserves a pay raise. At the same time he's going to just lose out on a boatload of money as training camp rolls on. Which is pretty stupid. Everyone shows up eventually. Maybe Boone shouldn't have signed his contract back when no one thought he was worth anything except SF. He doesn't have to honor his current deal. But he isn't going to strong arm Baalke and Marathe who have been geniuses at handling players and their contracts. Holdouts in general fail unless you're a QB.
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Yeah the Niners are still stacked along the line. This is why fans complaining about their team not filling needs in the draft are wrong. You always need more good players at every position and you don't draft for one year.
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Boone really does need a raise. But he really hurt himself by holding out. Baalke has yet to lose a stalemate.
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