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Old 08-22-2011, 08:03 PM    (permalink
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Question, can Roger Goodell actually punish players who got into trouble during the lockout? I mean, no players were employed and since there was no CBA, there was no conduct policy.

I thought I read somewhere that if Goodell starts handing out suspensions, the NFL PA may take this to a legal matter, as there was no conduct policy without a CBA>.
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There shouldn't be any suspensions, but you know ... Goodell is a douche.
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The possibility of Kenny Britt being suspended is supposedly "still on the table," and he suspended Terrell Pryor before he was even a part of the league. So I think he'll at least try.
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The possibility of Kenny Britt being suspended is supposedly "still on the table," and he suspended Terrell Pryor before he was even a part of the league. So I think he'll at least try.
True, but I think there is a possibility the NFL PA can take this to a legal matter. Technically, all of these players were unemployed at the time during the lockout since they couldn't practice, could not even step foot in the facitilities, and weren't getting paid.
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He better not suspend Kenny, he is on my fantasy football team,favorite team and he is going to have breakout year plus <3 him. He is our best WR since Drew Bennett.
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I still found him suspending Pryor complete BS.
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He suspended me for jaywalking on my way to the parking lot after work today, Britt is screwed.
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I'm not really against players getting suspended for messing up during the lock out. If they did something worthy of suspension then I hope the get it.
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I hate Goodell, could they have picked a worse freaking Commissioner? All the guy has done is ruin the league...
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i don't see a valid argument against goodell suspending players during the lockout. they were still nfl employees, they were just in the midst of a labor dispute (for instance, all contracts signed before are still valid). further, i don't see why he'd be unable to penalize a free agent who broke the conduct policy, just because the guy didn't have a contract at the time, and that's a *far* more valid question.

tl;dr - repeating 'they were unemployed' doesn't actually mean they weren't employed.
They weren't getting paid and they weren't going to 'work' or practicing offiicially.

There was NO CBA, meaning there was no Conduct Policy at that time. That means they violated nothing during the lockout because there was no league conduct policy to violate.

Listen, I'm all for player punishments of the conduct policy, but honestly, do you even want to know how many players were Juicing hard during the lockout because they could not be tested? Heck they definately got away with it, and can't and won't be touched.

Thats my valid argument.
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And this has nothing to do with Aqib Talib meeting with Roger Goodell this week...

I don't think you start this thread if he wasn't.
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And this has nothing to do with Aqib Talib meeting with Roger Goodell this week...

I don't think you start this thread if he wasn't.
It's not just that, but I mean, if Albert Haynesworth avoids suspension for his violation, why can't Britt and Talib?

Also, what about Cedric Benson? Cullen Jenkins? They all got into trouble. Heck, even Braylon Edwards, from his DUI arrest last year hasn't heard anything from the league as well.
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I also was one of the Bucs fans that was fed up with Talib and wanted him cut immediately after hearing the news of his actions.

However, I feel differently now that more information came out that he came to the defense of his sister and only reacted because the guy beat her and had a gun and was trespassing.

Plus, Mark Dominik even thought about cutting him, that is why there were many reports of that happening from tampa tribune. Then, once the lockout was lifted, they were able to speak to Talib's lawyers and got more information, which made them change there mind.
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So, your telling me not 1 NFL player was juicing during the lockout? Looks like Shawn Merriman is back to form again in preseason so far.
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Sure, there was a lockout but that shouldn't allow players to go out and do whatever the hell they want. If this does become an issue, I'll side with the NFL.
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I honestly haven't see a major failure that Goodell directly caused. He is trying to make the game more popular and profitable and I think he is doing just fine at that. I just don't see a basis for all the tons of hate the guy gets.
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I could be commissioner of the league and the growth rate would still be ridiculous. Goodell has had little to no affect on that. It's a self-prospering business, it doesn't need a commissioner to grow, much less a ****** one.
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He's made the game less physical. Honestly, I understand a few rules because of player safety but some of them are garbage. I mean, Brady goes down in 2009 because a guy tackles him from the ground to get the sack.

Next offseason, that is prohibited. Injuries are a part of the game, if other teams have to suffer losing there QB, then so does New ENgland.

Like I said before, if Suh ever conducted that hit he did on Andy Dalton on Tom Brady, he'd be suspended immediately.
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I'm really confused as to how the NFL is justifying that the conduct code is still in effect because it is separate from the CBA, they didn't really explain why in the article njx posted, they just basically said "because we say so" which in the NFL is all that really matters but I'd like to know if this was in some type or writing or something the players were aware of before the lockout started.
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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam View Post
Wonderful, then you wouldn't be doing a bad job either.
The NFL is succeeding in spite of Roger Goodell not because of him. The success of the league as a whole has little reflection of the job he has done as a commissioner, which has been a ****** one.

So in case you don't understand what i'm trying to say here, he sucks.
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