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Old 01-16-2012, 01:13 PM    (permalink
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Tannehill has way more upside than Stanzi.
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Further to go than Stanzi? Yes. More upside? I don't see how he does in any aspect of the position.
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You not seeing it doesn't make it not true.
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You not seeing it doesn't make it not true.
You not giving me a reason and just saying so while I present facts certainly doesn't make it true.
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And that is different than what you do, every single day on the Chiefs boards, how?
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And that is different than what you do, every single day on the Chiefs boards, how?
Because when you question me about something, I give you the reason why I said something.
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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I put that up because it's hilarious. Which does make it better than Luck.
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I know Brandon Weeden is very old for an incoming rookie, but of all the quarterbacks not named Luck and Griffin I think I like him the best. Could just be I saw more Oklahoma State and it could be a product of Justin Blackmon, but I wouldn't be mad at the Chiefs using a 2nd or 3rd rounder on him.
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I know Brandon Weeden is very old for an incoming rookie, but of all the quarterbacks not named Luck and Griffin I think I like him the best. Could just be I saw more Oklahoma State and it could be a product of Justin Blackmon, but I wouldn't be mad at the Chiefs using a 2nd or 3rd rounder on him.
If this was last year and the Chiefs just needed a backup QB, I'd be all about Weeden. They'll have to assess whether Stanzi will be the #2 next year. I think he will be. At that point, they need either a veteran to hold the clipboard and be an extra coach, or a raw prospect to pick up as a UDFA/7th rounder to develop.

I'm 99% on them sitting tight with their QB situation this year. If they don't think Cassel/Stanzi is working after next year, they'll have about the same level of talent to pick through at the QB position in 2013. But this is a 10+ win team in 2012 with a much better outlook on winning playoff games than 2010 (even the most optimistic of us knew they just didn't have enough to compete with Baltimore in that format) and I just don't see a change happening at the QB position until they have to decide whether to keep Cassel or hand it over to Stanzi.
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I know Brandon Weeden is very old for an incoming rookie, but of all the quarterbacks not named Luck and Griffin I think I like him the best. Could just be I saw more Oklahoma State and it could be a product of Justin Blackmon, but I wouldn't be mad at the Chiefs using a 2nd or 3rd rounder on him.
No thanks on Weeden from me. We don't need another 28+ year old QB project. We already have Matt Cassel.
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mock draft:

1. trent richardson

2. casey hayward - cb

3. brandon weeden - qb

4. bj cunningham - wr
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CB and WR are not needs atm. If Carr and Bowe walk, sure, but I think they'll both be brought back.

Brandon Weeden is about the same age as Cassel and is a developmental QB prospect. I wouldn't touch him before the 5th round.

Trent Richardson is a baller.
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I would just like to congratulate your organization for making a fine hire. Jim Bob Cooter is your new offensive quality control coach. 'Ole Jim Bob has made a name for himself in Hard Knocksville with his superb play at the clipboard position and his drunken escapades.

2005 - Games/Starts: 1/0 ... Appeared in Vols win at Kentucky ... Continued serving as extra coach on sidelines to younger signal-callers and teammates.
2004 - Games/Starts: 1/0 ... Made late game appearance against South Carolina.
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here's my shot at a 4 rd mock with a trade

KC trades 11 to Jets for 16 and 3rd rounder

1. Dontari Poe NT - KC moves down gets an extra pick and gets their guy.

2. Kelechi Osemele OL - KC's 2 biggest needs were NT and RT and both get addressed early.

3a. Doug Martin RB - need to find a compliment for JC

3b. Brock Osweiler QB - At some point KC will take a QB

4. Keenan Robinson ILB - ILB oppo DJ needs to be addressed
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You had me until 4. I don't think upgrading Belcher is a bigger need than say, adding TE depth or someone inside to replace Lilja.
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yeah I was'nt sure where to go in the 4th round
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My perfect 3 rounds at this point probably looks something like this:

1) Mike Adams
2) Alameda Ta'amu
3) RB

It all depends on FA though.
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I don't know if this has been discussed. But what if Trent Richardson is available at 11. What if this guy is as good as AP. We can't really pass on a talent like that could we? I'd rather take a top five talent at 11 than reach for a quarterback, take a Right tackl that's been inconsistent his college career or maybe even Poe(although I'd be ok with Poe). Just figured I'd stir up some more conversation.
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here's my shot at a 4 rd mock with a trade

KC trades 11 to Jets for 16 and 3rd rounder

1. Dontari Poe NT - KC moves down gets an extra pick and gets their guy.

2. Kelechi Osemele OL - KC's 2 biggest needs were NT and RT and both get addressed early.

3a. Doug Martin RB - need to find a compliment for JC

3b. Brock Osweiler QB - At some point KC will take a QB

4. Keenan Robinson ILB - ILB oppo DJ needs to be addressed
I guess you had me until Brock, why are we drafting another developmental prospect when we just drafted Stanzi and we don't know what he's got(but I'm a big hawkeye fan and stanzi fan). I'm all for drafting a franchise QB, and I can't say anything about Brock but why keep shaking tree of exotic fruit?Also, I thought I read that Scott thought Osemele would have to go inside at the pros, if Scott Wright is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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I guess you had me until Brock, why are we drafting another developmental prospect when we just drafted Stanzi and we don't know what he's got(but I'm a big hawkeye fan and stanzi fan). I'm all for drafting a franchise QB, and I can't say anything about Brock but why keep shaking tree of exotic fruit?Also, I thought I read that Scott thought Osemele would have to go inside at the pros, if Scott Wright is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Well I know Pioli has said that he wants to get to the point of drafting a QB every year so I would be prepared for that at some point in the draft, I'm guessing later, so he can find his Brady, I just hope at some point he actually will try for one of the "elite" QB prospects.

To your other point, Richardson has been disscussed in another thread, but I think on this board it seems most people like that idea, to bolster our run game since we are generally a run first team, and Cassel needs a strong running game to be successful. I however do not want Richardson, because at this point I still feel like that is more of a luxury pick and we still have plenty other needs to fill, and you can usually pick up a strong RB later in the draft.
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QB every year means 6th & 7th round. Hopefully Stanzi can be the backup in 2012. From where I graded him going into last year's draft, he should be there. Richardson isn't a luxury because he brings things the team doesn't have. I understand that sentiment, though.

RT is the biggest need, but Richardson is soooo ******* good.
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I think NT and RT are bigger needs than drafting Trent Richardson but I wouldn't be upset about it -at all-.. I'd be happy.
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QB every year means 6th & 7th round. Hopefully Stanzi can be the backup in 2012. From where I graded him going into last year's draft, he should be there. Richardson isn't a luxury because he brings things the team doesn't have. I understand that sentiment, though.

RT is the biggest need, but Richardson is soooo ******* good.
If Cassel\Stanzi is the plan then I am scared. Got to bring in someone else. How could Stanzi not get any PT when Palko was out there. Makes me scratch my head. Do not care if Stanzi was raw. Palko was hot garbage. I have a hard time thinking of a less effective QB to take a snap for KC.
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I don't know if this has been discussed. But what if Trent Richardson is available at 11. What if this guy is as good as AP. We can't really pass on a talent like that could we? I'd rather take a top five talent at 11 than reach for a quarterback, take a Right tackl that's been inconsistent his college career or maybe even Poe(although I'd be ok with Poe). Just figured I'd stir up some more conversation.
If Richardson is available it likely would be because there was a run on tackles and d linemen. In which case Richardson would be the best player available and at a position of need. I'd be very happy with Trent Richardson wearing an arrowhead on his helmet.
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