2012 Chiefs Draft Discussion - Page 24

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 04-26-2012, 09:39 PM

4 for 4 on picks by Pioli visiting the facilities in KC. i'm just saying. keep it in mind for next year. Poe was on my list of 3 players with 1st round grades that visited KC

Splat · 04-26-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nepg

There goes Zeitler. With the DBs falling, I'm leaning towards wanting a CB or another DL with some solid potential 3-4 linemen still available.

I could see CB or FS/SS for sure.

They lack depth at both and with #18 in the Div they are going to need it.

Their FA was O heavy so I could see a D heavy draft.

nepg · 04-26-2012, 09:45 PM

I like their depth, but it could be better. It's like how I (we) feel about Belcher.

T-RICH49 · 04-26-2012, 10:12 PM

please let Silatolu be there at 44

vidae · 04-26-2012, 10:21 PM

Yeah I'm really hoping Amini is there at 44. He's my dude.

T-RICH49 · 04-26-2012, 10:30 PM

the happiest person Poe is a Chief?Derrick Johnson.that large man will be making life easier for DJ

Splat · 04-26-2012, 10:39 PM

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Coach Crennel addresses the media following the selection of Memphis NT Dontari Poe

Watch Video

This makes me feel better about the pick. I never hated it but it did worry me some.

I trust RAC when it comes to D.

TonyGfortheTD · 04-26-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by T-RICH49

what I really love about this pick is KC did'nt go the safe route.they went bold with Poe.Maybe I am a etenal optimist but I think the Chiefs will get rewarded with this pick

I'll concede that.

Would of disliked DeCastro as the pick even more. It'll be interesting to see what they do for NT in the mean time, as not even Wilfork was a Week 1 starter for Crennel.

BPhilb · 04-26-2012, 11:02 PM

Poe is a Chief. I wasn't wanting him, but he is now one of my favorite players. It may take him a little while to get acclimated but if he produceses our D is in good shape for years to come. Hopefully we can get a guard tomorrow and maybe a CB soon. Hopefully we will build some depth with this roster this weekend.

Hermstheman83 · 04-26-2012, 11:03 PM

Just some props for you guys. I looked on here after the draft first to see what you guys' thought. Glad to see my fellow KC fans are ok with this pick as well. A lot of Big WR's out there, Guards and Corners. I am curious whether or not they think corner is a big issue since routt is there.

SoCalBam · 04-26-2012, 11:11 PM

Think Guard is next area to address and there should be a good one there with Glenn, Osemele and Silatolu available.

vidae · 04-26-2012, 11:35 PM

I'd be ecstatic if we somehow ended up with Silatolu, as he is my favorite G prospect this year, but lemme throw a name at you:

Janoris Jenkins.

I know, we'll all pretty much immediately cross his name off because of the off the field stuff, but he might be the best pure corner in the draft. If he's available at 44, can we pass on him?

TonyGfortheTD · 04-26-2012, 11:58 PM

I think best path in the 2nd round would be BPA. If the BPA is a corner? Take them. Guard? Take them. QB? Take him. DE? Take him. etc etc

Outside of QB (I'm not sure about the options by now, maybe if someone like Osweiller became good value) and the eventual OL player to put through the system, don't really see pressing needs for this team. Just hang tight, maybe field a few phone calls if some good trade down offers come in, otherwise just start plucking the best talent.

OLB isn't a pressing need, but Upshaw would be fantastic value in the 2nd round and you can never have too many pass-rushers.

T-RICH49 · 04-27-2012, 01:02 AM

man if Upshaw fell to 44 you have to jump on that like white on rice.I mean having Upshaw, Houston & Hali on field in certain packages would be epic

vidae · 04-27-2012, 02:00 AM

I like Upshaw but I dunno about him at 44. I wouldn't hate the pick like I would have at 11 overall, but I still think we can find better players to pick from.

King Carls 5 Year Plan · 04-27-2012, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by vidae

I'd be ecstatic if we somehow ended up with Silatolu, as he is my favorite G prospect this year, but lemme throw a name at you:

Janoris Jenkins.

I know, we'll all pretty much immediately cross his name off because of the off the field stuff, but he might be the best pure corner in the draft. If he's available at 44, can we pass on him?

i was thinking this myself, but i was thinking #74. here's my thoughts. this reminds me a lot of the Houston situation last year. a guy with 1st round talent, but 5th round head. hell, i think Janoris has more red flags than Houston did. he also might be the best man cover CB to come out of this draft. i could see him continuing to fall and the Chiefs nabbing him when his value is the highest.

onejayhawk · 04-27-2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vidae

Poe will play NT on 1st and 2nd, DE on 3rd down.

If we go to an even front in the nickel, he will be the NT. He will not get sacks, but he should be able to push the pocket back.

I was a big fan of deCastro. Assuming Tannehill was gone, Poe was my 2nd choice over Kuechly.

J

TheMatriculator · 04-27-2012, 07:31 AM

I listened to Pioli and Crennel last night and I guess I feel better about the Poe selection. Heck, we are all Chiefs fans and we are all going to come to accept this. Pioli said Poe was their number one nose tackle before the combine. He had an explanation for the inconsistent performance (he played every down at every position on the line, never given the chance to focus on one technique). Pioli did say the kid had squeaky clean character and has the emotional makeup to play the 2 gap nose.

I need to avoid watching the post-draft analysis. Mayock is going to kill us for selecting Poe. It means nothing but it will be annoying.

I like Silatolu in the 2nd but also Brandon Brooks if he's gone. I know some have projected him for the 3rd but I don't think he'll still be there.

Jenkins - Will Pioli draft a kid with this much baggage? First round talent, 5th round character. Somebody will take him in the 2nd round.

nepg · 04-27-2012, 07:39 AM

I don't know that they'd go with Jenkins over Kirkpatrick, but I wouldn't rule Jenkins out.

Upshaw... I don't see the point. They have two of the best 3-4 OLBs starting for them with two good, possibly very good backups in Cameron Sheffield & Studebaker...heck, they still have Gabe Miller who is a freakish athlete who got Patriot IR'd last year.

I wouldn't hate it, but it's not really addressing a need or depth and there are better players on the board, imo.

I like a G like Silatolu in the 2nd as well. It doesn't immediately force Lilja out...he'll get a fair shake at turning it around, which he deserves. Unlike with DeCastro or even Zeitler where Lilja would have been benched immediately.

Also, there are still some interesting receivers on the board and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if they grabbed one. If they pass in round 2, I'm hoping they address the position with their fourth pick because...

With the third pick, I want them to start looking to Chris Polk if he's available at the end of the second round and Bernard Pierce. I think the end of the second round and beginning of the third will be the best place to grab a RB, and they really need a guy like Polk or Pierce with the recent injury histories of Charles & Hillis.

Unfortunately, that's probably also the best place to land a DB. So maybe RB gets pushed back a little further.

villagewarrior · 04-27-2012, 09:03 AM

Here's what I would do and hope the Chiefs do:

Mike Adams - yes, tackle is not necessarily a need, but with Alberts uncertain tenure and Adams is my second tackle, great value, great depth.

Cordy Glenn - you have to love the tackle/guard combo and the tremendous value.

Mychal Kendrick - Upgrading next to DJ may be more of a luxury, but Kendrick is a stud and has tremendous versatility. 30 TFLs over the last two years which means he attacks the line of scrimmage.

Reuben Randle - When I turned on LSU this guy was always making plays, and the Chiefs allegedly are shopping Bowe.

Amini Silatolu - Honestly, haven't seen any tape of Silatolu, however his scouting reports are glowing, and the Chiefs need to do Big Sal proud and represent Polynesia.

Brandon Boykin - Love this guys game, reminds me a lot of Flowers with more explosiveness and return potential.

George Iloka - Big safety to replace McGraw, he has some cover ability and should be an able back up while getting a lot of playing time in multi-WR sets.

I'd be happy with any of these players, which of course means they will draft none of them.

Wootylicous · 04-27-2012, 09:31 AM

I'm probably more pumped than some of you guys. Poe will be a ******* monster in that D. Crennel will coach him up and DJ is gonna have tons of fun next year with him man-handling the middle.