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Old 10-01-2011, 08:48 PM    (permalink
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Is this guy for real? Looks very athletic for a guy who's 270 and he's making plays all over the field.

I'm sure he has more TD's than the whole Ohio State Football team. LOL.

Where do you guys project him in the upcoming draft? Best position at the next level? NFL comparison?
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I'd say a DE in the 4-3 would use his talents the best. 2/3 rounder right now but is on the rise.
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Do you think he can play OLB in a 3-4?
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No way he's 270, he looks much more explosive than last year so you can bet he has lost some weight in the off season. Actually i project him better as a 34 OLB than 43 end.
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In another thread, I compared Ingram to Charles Johnson of Carolina. Very similar in size. I think Ingram may be a better all-around athlete and can possibly play 3-4 OLB, but straight line speed should be pretty similar.

In a draft full of 6'5"-6'6" DEs at the top of draft boards, I think Ingram could get lost and go in the 3rd round range. Someone will get a really good player, and really good value in the late 2nd to early 3rd.
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The Ed Reed of defensive ends. Guy just makes plays.

Really impressed with what I saw out of him. He's sort of in the Brandon Graham zone as far as where you can put him, but I think he'll find a place to play if he can continue to be this good.
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Melvin has been huge for the University of South Carolina this year.

Most wrote this guy off when Jadaveon Clowney committed (but in Clowney's defense, he's been a star himself so far this year). Melvin has been extremely productive this year, and with his ability to stand up and put his hand in the ground I think he would make the perfect OLB/Nickel DE in a creative 3-4 (Rex/Rob Ryan)

If he keeps up this production, it would be a shame to see him slip past the 2nd round.
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Honestly, he may not slip past the 1st round if he keeps this up and works out well.
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Let's calm down with the z's. He's no Jordy Nelson.
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Wanted to bump this thread and see how people feel about him now that the season has ended...
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+Above average NFL athleticism and an NFL body
+Versatile (played in a 2pt stance, both sides of the line, and DT)
+Knack for making plays
+Good spin move
+Good hands (not in a catching sense)

-Not instinctive
-Lacks a great motor
-Lacks a great burst at the snap
-Doesn't play with great leverage
-Doesn't show fluid hips in pass coverage
-Inconsistent getting off blocks in the running game (gets off them down the field after gains at times and makes tackles in pursuit rather than positive defensive stops)

Basically, he's got a lot of pass-rushing potential but doesn't play with great technique or instincts (which is alarming for a senior). Coached up, the kid could be a stud. Without refining his game, he'll flop.
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He'll go to the Lions at 1.23 tbqh.
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Seems tailor made for the Jets at #16. Rex had a player like him before and used him all over the field (Adalius Thomas) and Ingram certainly "plays like a Jet" as the coaches always like to say. The Jets got a big time need at OLB as Pace is aging, Bryan Thomas comes off a season ending injury and the others like Maybin and Westerman weren't ready for full time duty last season. The Jets sorely need playmakers and athletic pass rushers in the front seven, Ingram would certainly help.
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Killed his stock today with me. I really hope he goes to the Jets so he can be a massive bust. Literally the only thing he has going for him is that he's insanely fluid for such a big guy like Adaiilus Thomas. He's got average to above average strait line speed, but he's got the worst hand use I've seen from a first round touted prospect, and he no burst off the snap at all. Add on to that, that he has 30.5 inch arms, makes it almost impossible for him to do anything as a pass rusher. He also plays pretty soft and avoids blocks rather than stacking and shedding, which is almost impossible for him to do. I would have a hard time taking him with a 2nd round pick at this point. He has a nack for makingbig plays, so that may speak to his football knowledge, but I just don't see much upside to him, let alone a first round talent. 30 inch arms just REALLY killed his stock for me, or what little there was left.
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Killed his stock today with me. I really hope he goes to the Jets so he can be a massive bust. Literally the only thing he has going for him is that he's insanely fluid for such a big guy like Adaiilus Thomas. He's got average to above average strait line speed, but he's got the worst hand use I've seen from a first round touted prospect, and he no burst off the snap at all. Add on to that, that he has 30.5 inch arms, makes it almost impossible for him to do anything as a pass rusher. He also plays pretty soft and avoids blocks rather than stacking and shedding, which is almost impossible for him to do. I would have a hard time taking him with a 2nd round pick at this point. He has a nack for makingbig plays, so that may speak to his football knowledge, but I just don't see much upside to him, let alone a first round talent. 30 inch arms just REALLY killed his stock for me, or what little there was left.
That's exactly what he has to prove, that his athletisism and measurables wont be a problem in the NFL. His measurement surely didnt help...
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That's exactly what he has to prove, that his athletisism and measurables wont be a problem in the NFL. His measurement surely didnt help...
as 3-4 OLB?? It's nice in thought, but how many of them do you actually see doing it in the NFL?
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Melvin Ingram is a very athletic and versatile defender. He was a RB in high school so he has exceptionable quickness and rush skills. I have no doubt he would be an excellent OLB in a 3-4 at approx. 6'2", 276lbs. and will be a likely 1st round pick.
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as 3-4 OLB?? It's nice in thought, but how many of them do you actually see doing it in the NFL?
I was referring to his arm length and lso his weight. He is close to 280 lbs which would be insanely big for an OLB. His height isnt a problem at all in my eyes.
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I've heard he's been tearing it up in the practices. What exactly has he done to "kill his stock"?
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I like him more than Upshaw as a 3-4 OLB prospect, but I'm not 100% sure I'm into drafting either in the first. That said, Ingram can change my mind pretty easily with a good week + workouts.

Questions with both aren't height/weight, it's length. I think if one of the two does make it as a 3-4 OLB it's probably Ingram.
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Seems tailor made for the Jets at #16..
Are the Jets going to address the QB situation later then, perhaps round 2, or are they not concerned with the direction Sanchez is headed?
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He's looked very impressive in the one on one drills today (Tuesday).
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He's a monsta!!

Someone dropped on NFLN that he's essentially a bigger James Harrison.
IMO he's the best pass rusher on the South squad.

Ingram is going top 15.
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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER View Post
He's a monsta!!

Someone dropped on NFLN that he's essentially a bigger James Harrison.
IMO he's the best pass rusher on the South squad.

Ingram is going top 15.
I'd be happy about that, hell let the Jets take him. He can be all over the place and be a non factor rushing the passer for them. If it means Perry dropping to the Chargers, I'd be PSYCHED about it.
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