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Old 10-14-2013, 12:34 AM    (permalink
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That whole grocery store scene was just plain awful.

1. Setting the bottle down breaks 1 shelf, ok, I buy that. But then the whole rack falls over? No.

2. The walkers on the roof never walked over the weak part until right then? Really? All that time a **** load of walkers were wandering around on the roof, they never stepped there?

3. As has been mentioned, the fluids making the roof weak enough to fall through is just ridiculous.

4. The helicopter would have broken through the roof when it crashed originally if the roof was weak enough for some gas/oil to do it in.


Also, the whole beginning of the episode where they caught us up on all the relationships going on was just, awful.
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I'm really glad I don't look into the minute details of shows/movies that much. I wouldn't be able to enjoy anything.
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I'm really glad I don't look into the minute details of shows/movies that much. I wouldn't be able to enjoy anything.
Watching a major source of food like a pig just get sick and die with a veterinarian (who specializes livestock/horses!) in your camp without said vet ever doing much/anything about it isn't exactly "minute".

Now there's some giant virus going around the camp that they would have known about otherwise... This mysterious illness that's going to probably be the driving force of the season would have been prevented if they'd had the vet figure out what was wrong with the pig. It's just stupid as all ****.

Like, they think/know most of the audience is too stupid to remember every character's background. They even had the arrogance to poke at the fans' idiocy by talking about character backstories (Darryl's) in the ******* episode where they just ignore the most-known character history on the show outside of Grimes!

These aren't minute details, they're giant plot holes and garbage writing.
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I'm really glad I don't look into the minute details of shows/movies that much. I wouldn't be able to enjoy anything.
I don't really pay attention to nepg in this thread anymore he is more than willing to suspend belief for shows he enjoys yet for some reason he just won't stop watching TWD.

With that said even I the great defender of this show have to admit that the shopping center scene was rather lame. Not for ridiculous "suspension of belief moments." they killed the character we couldn't care less about if we tried which they have done before but usually it enlisted a response from a character we did care about. But this time it just fell flat.
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I will say I loved the scenes with Rick and the psycho chick.
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No. But that kept me from enjoying what was probably a decent episode... Aside from there being like maybe 12 zombies on the roof that turned into a massive horde falling from the ceiling (how the **** are they falling through the ceiling anyway?! Those roofs are made to withstand a **** ton of weight and they wouldn't rot from liquids because they're designed to wick away fluid).

**** it. So many logical flaws in that episode. I just can't suspend disbelief THAT much.
I'm going to assume you have never worked in a grocery store. Leaks develop in those sorts of roofs all the time. If nothing is done about them, they can weaken the integrity of the roof. Water damage, plus the strain of Walkers walking over the weakened areas for a prolonged amount of time would eventually lead to collapse.

And if you don't think a shelf full of wine bottles can't just fall over, go to youtube. There are hundreds of videos whee a guy is just stocking the shelves and the entire shelf just comes crashing down.
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I'm actually with nepg on Herschel not looking at the pig. I mean come on you have a veterinarian 10 feet away and no one thought to have him at least look at the pig?

I let alot of things slide on this show but that was pretty bad.
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Yeah, that was annoying. I wish the EP would have been asked that on Talking Dead last night.
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I love the show but this episode made me cringe at times.

Helicopter on the roof doesn't make it collapse but a single walker is heavy enough to tear a hole by walking... C'moooooonnnn man.

Herschel not looking at the pig I'll give a pass to and just imagine Rick said, "Herschel took a look at her yesterday and he's not sure what's wrong" and with that line I don't need to see him actually hobble down to the pen.
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Yeah it would be a much better show if I sat here and played out what the dialogue SHOULD have been in my head, but that's not what you do when you watch a TV show. Him not looking at the pig was borderline ******** writing. Period.
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Yeah it would be a much better show if I sat here and played out what the dialogue SHOULD have been in my head, but that's not what you do when you watch a TV show. Him not looking at the pig was borderline ******** writing. Period.
No doubt it's terrible writing. The show as a whole has had terrible writing throughout but until someone makes a better version of the content it will be must-watch.

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I thought it was generally a horrible episode, but the amount of people in this thread that hate the show and watch it every week is hilarious.
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I think it says quite a bit about the show when you constantly have to tell yourself how things happened the way they did or have the producers on talking dead explain things away instead of the writers just having logically sound scenarios.

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I agree it's kind of an insane plothole to not involve a vet in the potential plague storyline, but there's time to right that wrong. If they don't involve Herschel at all it's obviously preposterous.

Overall I guess I liked this ep. Definitely dug the psycho lady, I'm always in favor of seeing more impact on the world outside our little group. Nice character moments for Darryl, Carol, Cutty.

Some disappointment: less fallout than I would have liked from Carl's cold blooded murder. Generally I want less kiddy plotlines from him because the kid is turning into an okay actor, which on this show makes him a great actor.

The run was pretty cool, sayonara Beaver. Good setpiece. **** it, good episode, good premiere, just didn't light my brain on fire.
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I enjoyed it. Not writing in something to wash out Herschel's (Virgil!) lack of involvement with a sick pig is just awful, but that's par for the (writing) course for TWD.

Ultimately, an ok start and good ending to build for mass hysteria. We'll probably get all of 1 minute of chaos out of it, though. Then we'll get more silly crap that nobody cares about.

In order to not hate the show/writers and wind up yelling at the tube the whole time, I have set my mental filters to "Kid's Show."

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I ******* loved the crazy gangrene riddled lady. Creepy as hell. The writing was pretty awful but that is to be expected. Overall, I didn't really hate the episode. It wasn't great but it was a step up from the beyond awful episodes I am used to as I found it to be decent. Herschel is one of my all time favorite so awful he's great characters.
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I will say I am ******* pissed they killed of the Beav. I was very excited to see him in the show, he would have been amazing. At least we still have Cuddy and Deangelo.
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Definitely exceeded expectations.

I was fully expecting them to bore the **** out of us on the 1st episode.
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I do love that the general consensus is okay episode which is great because we expected a lot worse. Like jesus ******* christ, you have a huge budget and any number of great writers and actors would love to work on the show, just make it ******* better. I hope this slight improvement will mean the series slowly gets better but it always lets me down. I would love more **** like the whole Rick/gangrene lady stuff. The show is about zombies, make it scary sometimes. The lady was the scariest thing the show has done so far.
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Definitely. I think someone mentioned it last page, but would love it if they keep going outside of the prison and introducing random people/situations like they did with Rick/psycho lady.
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That roof scene really was ridiculous. It wasn't like there was one hole on the ceiling that deteriorated.. they were literally falling through new holes one after the other. Makes absolutely zero sense but at least it was funny.
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I thought it was generally a horrible episode, but the amount of people in this thread that hate the show and watch it every week is hilarious.
Yes I didn't like the episode either, but that is quite funny and true. Even more so the rationale behind it.

All in all I'm not that excited for this season. Looking at the trailer a while back it just seemed like a lot wasn't going to go down this season. We'll see.
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That roof scene really was ridiculous. It wasn't like there was one hole on the ceiling that deteriorated.. they were literally falling through new holes one after the other. Makes absolutely zero sense but at least it was funny.
The scene was ******* hilarious. This show works well as an unintentional comedy. If Tommy Wiseau was cast in a lead role this show would be elevated to among the best on television.
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