2012 Draft - Page 2

CheeseKnuckles · 12-19-2011, 07:04 PM

Just throwing out a few names let me know if you agree with any as good fits in GB. ( These are mostly guys I have tried to pay attn to throughout the season )

OT Riley Reiff
CB Chase Minnifield
TE Coby Fleener
CB Casey Hayward
DE Jared Crick
CB Jonathon Banks
DE Devon Still
OG David DeCastro
DE Derek Wolfe
RB Trent Richardson
OLB Ronnel Lewis
RB Lamar Miller
OLB Courtney Upshaw
OLB Brandon Lindsay
OLB Nick Perry
OLB Shea Mclellin
OLB Whitney Mercilus
FS TJ McDonald
SS Ray Ray Armstrong

ImBrotherCain · 12-19-2011, 08:39 PM

So I was just thinking about this watching MNF. Do you think that if the Steelers passed on Hayward we would have taken him?

Try to think of this like it was last April; not like today knowing the extensive injuries we have suffered on the OLine.

princefielder28 · 12-19-2011, 08:59 PM

Sherrod would've still been taken...the team showed throughout the draft that they had fully trusted Mike Neal to be a player at DE

TimmG6376 · 12-20-2011, 06:48 PM

If anything had Heyward been available there might have been more interest in TT's attempts to trade back into the top of round 2.

Can't help but see all these young pass rushers that have come out of this draft and wonder what might have been though.

TimmG6376 · 12-22-2011, 10:58 AM

Some intriguing prospects in tonight's Las Vegas Bowl

Billy Winn
Shea McClellin
Doug Martin

I'll be watching Burfict as well, but I don't see him having a chance of becoming a Packer.

SuperPacker · 12-22-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmG6376

Some intriguing prospects in tonight's Las Vegas Bowl

Billy Winn
Shea McClellin
Doug Martin

I'll be watching Burfict as well, but I don't see him having a chance of becoming a Packer.

Billy Winn could be one we look at! Not sure if hes a first rounder though and not sure if he would be at 64 (assuming we win the superbowl!)

TimmG6376 · 12-22-2011, 01:54 PM

Mock Drafts at this stage are fun, but until after the Senior Bowl and Combine(s) you won't really have a good idea on a lot of guys draft grades. Obviously excluding the top 10 locks like Luck, Kalil, etc.

To illustrate you can probably go back to this time last year and many Mocks had the Packers taking Von Miller. We all know how that turned out.

SuperPacker · 12-22-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmG6376

Mock Drafts at this stage are fun, but until after the Senior Bowl and Combine(s) you won't really have a good idea on a lot of guys draft grades. Obviously excluding the top 10 locks like Luck, Kalil, etc.

To illustrate you can probably go back to this time last year and many Mocks had the Packers taking Von Miller. We all know how that turned out.

The same is happening with Courtney Upshaw! SW has him going to us at 32 but I dont see him falling any further than 15. I did say the same for daquan bowers last year though :D

J-Mike88 · 12-22-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmG6376

Mock Drafts at this stage are fun, but until after the Senior Bowl and Combine(s) you won't really have a good idea on a lot of guys draft grades. Obviously excluding the top 10 locks like Luck, Kalil, etc.

To illustrate you can probably go back to this time last year and many Mocks had the Packers taking Von Miller. We all know how that turned out.

I REMEMBER those too!
Not just mocks here, but from McShay, Kiper, Mayock, etc.

But we were projected to pick close to 20 not 32, and then Von blew up.
Too bad we couldn't have taken him the year before.

What about Alden Smith? When did that guy get picked?
We need to hit on another pass rush guy. Clay will get worn down and become ineffective without some help.

TimmG6376 · 12-22-2011, 08:29 PM

Aldon went #7.

There are some intriguing guys this year:
Jarvis Jones (word is he is staying at UGA though)
Curry
Irvin
Ingram
Branch
Jenkins

Irvin is guy I was lukewarm on but am warming up to. Problem is he is probably the kind of guy that is going to blow up the combine and put himself out of our reach.

Want to see McClellin tonight because I've seen him listed as an underrated OLB prospect in a couple of places.

SuperPacker · 12-23-2011, 03:49 AM

I cant even begin to imagine how good this team would be if we had a pass rush! The defense would go back to the Superbowl days where they averaged 15 points a game and we would have the best offense in the game! That would be an unstoppable team!

TimmG6376 · 12-23-2011, 12:41 PM

As strong as the offense is all they really need is middle of the road defense. I'd love to see a top 5 defense each year like they were last year, but at this point I'd settle for being in the top half of NFL defenses.

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I was able to see some good things from McClellin last night, however, ASU was so over-matched I don't know how much it says about him. They do move him a round a lot which shows versatility and he definitely has a motor. He had one Clay-esque sack on a stunt in which he started outside and looped inside and got a clean hit. A couple of times he was able to get pressure by just bull-rushing his blocker back into the pocket.

Billy Winn flashed as well, but again this was Boise St (50-3) over the last 4 years vs ASU (6-7).

J-Mike88 · 12-23-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker

I cant even begin to imagine how good this team would be if we had a pass rush! The defense would go back to the Superbowl days where they averaged 15 points a game and we would have the best offense in the game! That would be an unstoppable team!

That's very simplistic!
But I believe very true.

Ted should be able to improve this one particular aspect in the off-season.
We need guys like Walden and Zombo to just be backups. To someone who can get pressure consistently against a one-on-one block out wide.

CheeseKnuckles · 12-23-2011, 03:18 PM

McClellin is a beast.

CheeseKnuckles · 12-23-2011, 03:43 PM

Ronnell Lewis is also a beast.

Check out his highlight video on youtube.

Coombser · 01-11-2012, 07:18 AM

Gimme Brandon Jenkins over Lewis...like McClellin late 2nd-3rd round

princefielder28 · 01-11-2012, 10:34 AM

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Gimme Brandon Jenkins over Lewis...like McClellin late 2nd-3rd round

Jenkins is going back to school

CheeseKnuckles · 01-12-2012, 11:23 AM

Another guy on my radar is Bruce Irvin, but he sort of scares me. He would need to gain some weight and improve on his run defense. Not sure what others think of him.

TimmG6376 · 01-12-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseKnuckles

Another guy on my radar is Bruce Irvin, but he sort of scares me. He would need to gain some weight and improve on his run defense. Not sure what others think of him.

I think he is going to do well at the Senior Bowl & combine, which might take him out of our range. He may have some question marks but guys that can get after the passer are at a premium. Being able to sack the QB trumps a lot of needs.

princefielder28 · 01-12-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseKnuckles

Another guy on my radar is Bruce Irvin, but he sort of scares me. He would need to gain some weight and improve on his run defense. Not sure what others think of him.

yeah it would be nice if Irvin was more physically imposing but certainly someone we'd have to entertain taking at the bottom of round two if available...Shea McClellin is one guy I see TT being interested in a great deal...not sure if he'll boost his stock to the first round level; I feel he'd be worth it though (have him ranked as the 27th best prospect)

SuperPacker · 01-12-2012, 03:27 PM

Im not sure how hard we will look into QB but saying as Flynn will be gone i think we should consider looking at Brandon Weedan and Russell Wilson. These are #4 and #5 on my QB rankings but i think both will go later than they should because of age and size issues.

J-Mike88 · 01-12-2012, 03:46 PM

Pass rush
Pass rush
Pass rush

That's the one area we must improve.

Nothing else is going to be urgent as we, hopefully, try to become the first team in NFL history to 3-Peat the Super Bowl.

TimmG6376 · 01-12-2012, 03:47 PM

QB will probably be addressed at some point. Like it or not Harrell is going to come in as the front runner to be the backup QB.

Wilson seems to have a limited ceiling but could be a career backup kind of guy. Weedan is a little old for a developmental QB. If they think he'll adjust quickly maybe.

As a developmental guy I think someone like Austin Davis in the later rounds would be a guy McCarthy could develop into something.

SuperPacker · 01-12-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmG6376

QB will probably be addressed at some point. Like it or not Harrell is going to come in as the front runner to be the backup QB.

Wilson seems to have a limited ceiling but could be a career backup kind of guy. Weedan is a little old for a developmental QB. If they think he'll adjust quickly maybe.

As a developmental guy I think someone like Austin Davis in the later rounds would be a guy McCarthy could develop into something.

Another guy i forgot to mention was Ryan Lindley. I really like his arm strength and i think Rodgers, Clements and Philbin could make him become a good player.

Im also interested in McCarron the Alabama QB just because his story sounds a lot like Matt Flynn. Dont know if hes coming out though.

SuperPacker · 01-12-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Pass rush
Pass rush
Pass rush

That's the one area we must improve.

Nothing else is going to be urgent as we, hopefully, try to become the first team in NFL history to 3-Peat the Super Bowl.

Yeah in my ideal world we would trade up to get Courtney Upshaw and then take Crick with out next pick! That would greatly improve the run and pass defense