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Old 04-28-2012, 02:24 PM    (permalink
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Back on the clock. TT has gone mad.
Ted has gone mad this year. All I can tell everybody about the safety is he played like Nick did in college. Same size and same skills. We just literally drafted Nick Collins II.
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TT is going crazy and i love it! Our defense is gonna be completely different next year.

So we only have 2 picks left?

Nick Perry - A+
Jerel Worthy - A
Casey Hayward - A+
Mike Daniels - B
Jerron McMillian - C
Terrell Manning - B+

Great draft so far!
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Odd pick. Where does he fit in besides special teams?
ILB depth and can get some pass rush. Kinda like Desmond Bishop.
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TT is going crazy and i love it! Our defense is gonna be completely different next year.

So we only have 2 picks left?

Nick Perry - A+
Jerel Worthy - A
Casey Hayward - A+
Mike Daniels - B
Jerron McMillian - C
Terrell Manning - B+

Great draft so far!
Agree with all those grades except Manning. I have that as a C. Confused how an undersized 4-3 Olb fits on our roster. Also would give a B for Jerron
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Ted has gone mad this year. All I can tell everybody about the safety is he played like Nick did in college. Same size and same skills. We just literally drafted Nick Collins II.

Wouldn't go that far.
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So whens our next pick?
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I think Manning will help immediately on ST and the Pack will probably get him to bulk up a bit. Development guy, likely wont' see the field much on D(barring injuries, and we hope that doesn't happen).

Packers have 2 picks left

#241 and #243
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Could we go defense with every pick lol?
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I like the Manning pick quite a bit...I think he has a chance to play inside and out in our defense...like someone mentioned, probably gonna contribute on special teams right away
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A little bit of position flexibility for Manning. Should be able to win a roster spot over Francois. Like the pick.
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If nothing else, a special teams guy with even Nickel LB potential is worth a 5th round pick.
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Anyone else still shocked and amazed over how great this draft looks for us?

I would have been happy with either Nick Perry or Jerel Worthy in the first and a bunch of bleh picks. To think we got them both, a corner that I really like and some other guys with definite upside is just incredible. Worthy has actually been my ideal 1st round pick for a while now.. people worry about him as a 3-4 DE but guess what? We don't line our 3-4 DEs up on tackles most of the time, we play a Nickel and his ideal fit has always been as a nickel penetrating type, in my opinion.

Jerel Worthy and B.J. Raji in our Nickel package could be simply insane. Two big guys with a lot of strength and the quickness to apply pressure. Combine that with Nick Perry who has as much upside as anyone in this draft, in my opinion, and who has a floor of being a fantastic situational pass-rusher and I couldn't be more pleased.

Also happy that TT didn't get fancy and go offense. We're good there. We already have developmental WRs and TEs and while I'd like to see us have one or two more OLine prospects to develop I hardly think we're weak there.

A+ draft. There's going to be some serious competitions for playing time on that defense this year and that's exactly what we needed.

Absolutely love our DLine going into camp. A weakness is now a strength. Those Hargrove and Muir signings look even better; any Dlineman who doesn't show up to play just isn't going to sniff making the team.

Super curious to see what we do with safety. Putting Woodson there is probably the easiest and safest move, but I wouldn't be surprised if Heyward or Jerron make a run at that spot in camp (although I like Heyward more as a corner and think he'll stay there.)

My way-too-early prediction for our starting lineup..

DE: Ryan Pickett, Jerel Worthy, Anthony Hargrove, Mike Daniels
DT: B.J. Raji, Daniel Muir
ROLB: Clay Matthews
LOLB: Nick Perry
MLB: Desmond Bishop, D.J. Smith (think if he outplays Hawk in the pre-season, it's his spot to lose.)
CB: Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Casey Heyward, Jarrett Bush
FS: Charles Woodson
SS: Morgan Burnett

And man, do I like that defense.
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Yep, loving the Dline depth, and I STILL have hope for Neal once he returns after his suspension

I love how aggressive they were in addressing the D this year. Should be a lot of good competition in camp
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Ryan Pickett----BJ Raji----Jerel Worthy

Clay Matthews----Desmond Bishop----DJ Smith----Nick Perry

That is a top front 7 if Nick Perry and Jerel Worthy pan out. I liked Perry as a mid first round talent and Worthy as a first round talent. Great value and great players.

Our defense could go back to top 10 next season.
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Wouldn't go that far.
I like our safety coach a lot. I think it can easily happen if McMillan works hard to learn the schemes.
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I like our safety coach a lot. I think it can easily happen if McMillan works hard to learn the schemes.
I like coach Perry as well, but Nick Collins was arguably a top 3-5 safety in the NFL. I wouldn't say a 4th round pick out of Maine could "easily" become that good.

I like the pick, but homeboy's got a long way to go until he's a Nick Collins type player. Collins was a freaking stud.
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I don't know that you move Woodson. I think I'd give McMillan his fair shot at taking the job from Peprah. If that doesn't happen you roll with Peprah another season and look to address safety next offseason.
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I like coach Perry as well, but Nick Collins was arguably a top 3-5 safety in the NFL. I wouldn't say a 4th round pick out of Maine could "easily" become that good.

I like the pick, but homeboy's got a long way to go until he's a Nick Collins type player. Collins was a freaking stud.
Out of college, McMillan has the same pros/cons as Collins. Hard Work and good coaching can turn McMillan to that type of safety in a few years.
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I don't know that you move Woodson. I think I'd give McMillan his fair shot at taking the job from Peprah. If that doesn't happen you role with Peprah another season and look to address safety next offseason.
McMillan wont take the job from Peprah until he learns everything he needs to learn as a young player.
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Brewster and a QB would be a good way to round things out.
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If anything I'd look for Anthony Levine/MD Jennings to challenge Peprah this year
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Just watched 3 games of Terrell Manning and i love the pick! The kid can do everything.

- He's a very good pass rusher, he has a explosive first step and good bend. Sort of like a poor mans Von Miller.
- He sheds blocks well and tackles hard.
- Can cover a tight ends and running backs
- Covers ground quickly, has good agility and change of direction.

We could play him anywhere and it would make sense. Playing him at OLB on occasion would bring a nice change from the bigger Nick Perry. At ILB he would probably be the 3rd choice behind Bishop and Smith (AJ Hawk is ****) and we could use him to cover the better tight ends/pass catching running backs of the league. Remember AJ Hawk against Sproles last year...Manning would completely change that.
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Great draft so far. Really like the Mike Daniels and Terrell Manning picks today. Unbelievable to get Manning in Round 5. I also think Mike Daniels selection will push Worthy, because with Daniels you get a guy that plays his butt of every play, with Worthy, he plays hard when he needs to, but takes plays off.

We should really improve on defense this year.

For the last two picks, I would really like to see Chris Polk if he is there (shoulder concerns and all). Also Michael Brewster might not be a bad selection.
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I'd say Terrell Manning was a 2nd round talent. I think i've got a man crush.





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