Joe Paterno fired - Page 9

Giantsfan1080 · 11-08-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

McQueary was scared. Not right or wrong, just disappointing.
At least he told someone and I can't blame him for going to his father first.

If Paterno had seen this, you think HE would have told a soul???
Sandusky is JoePa's BFF, or was.

Scared of what though? It's not like JoePa would have had him killed or something. I understand it's hard to understand what the thinking was but I just don't see a reason to defend his actions.

descendency · 11-08-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Scared of what though? It's not like JoePa would have had him killed or something. I understand it's hard to understand what the thinking was but I just don't see a reason to defend his actions.

Making a private matter public. That's career suicide. If Penn State fired him, no one else would have hired him, like it or not.

JoeJoeBrown · 11-08-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency

Making a private matter public. That's career suicide. If Penn State fired him, no one else would have hired him, like it or not.

Your logic is way wrong here.

descendency · 11-08-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricEye

Apparently, Paterno is scheduling his own press conference or something, independent of Penn State. Supposedly, there's a major divide there right now. Can't possibly bode well for his hopes of finishing the season.

If he does that, he may be fired with cause.

Brodeur · 11-08-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency

Making a private matter public. That's career suicide. If Penn State fired him, no one else would have hired him, like it or not.

No one is going to hire him now, and he's going to be a hell of a lot worse off for not doing the right thing in the first place. I am getting annoyed at all of this "this is what you are supposed to do" or "he was scared" crap, this is ******* rape of a ten year old we're talking about. This is so much worse than any other scandal that the NCAA has been through.

Giantsfan1080 · 11-08-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency

Making a private matter public. That's career suicide. If Penn State fired him, no one else would have hired him, like it or not.

No way. Career suicide because he turned in a child rapist? Just no.

JoeJoeBrown · 11-08-2011, 05:25 PM

Apparently a large crowd of students are outside of JoePa's house cheering in support of him.

Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing.

Giantsfan1080 · 11-08-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

No one is going to hire him now, and he's going to be a hell of a lot worse off for not doing the right thing in the first place. I am getting annoyed at all of this "this is what you are supposed to do" or "he was scared" crap, this is ******* rape of a ten year old we're talking about. This is so much worse than any other scandal that the NCAA has been through.

It absolutely is. It makes the recruiting scandals trivial. The NCAA won't have a leg to stand on though I don't think to penalize PSU.

Giantsfan1080 · 11-08-2011, 05:27 PM

Is Mcqueary finally the one to prove as fact that gingers don't have souls?

descendency · 11-08-2011, 05:28 PM

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It absolutely is. It makes the recruiting scandals trivial. The NCAA won't have a leg to stand on though I don't think to penalize PSU.

I would be totally shocked if the NCAA doesn't have grounds to punish PSU. Almost every agreement known to man has a "moral clause" in it. It is specifically to punish stuff like this.

I don't know specifically if the NCAA has that moral clause, but I would bet on it.

FuzzyGopher · 11-08-2011, 05:28 PM

Damn, 9 kids? Sandusky is doing Tiger Woods numbers. What a sick ****.

WCH · 11-08-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

No one is going to hire him now, and he's going to be a hell of a lot worse off for not doing the right thing in the first place. I am getting annoyed at all of this "this is what you are supposed to do" or "he was scared" crap, this is ******* rape of a ten year old we're talking about. This is so much worse than any other scandal that the NCAA has been through.

This.

His career is basically over. No school is going to touch somebody who walked out of a room where the rape of a 10 year old child was taking place, without even calling the cops. He's going to be remembered for being tacitly involved in the biggest scandal in the history of NCAA football.

Students would go berserk, and boosters would go berserk.

FUNBUNCHER · 11-08-2011, 05:32 PM

SO who was the bad guy in the 1998 incident??
Paterno could have ended this a long time ago.

It makes no sense to hold McQueary more accountable than the AD/VP/University president or JoePa.

ElectricEye · 11-08-2011, 05:36 PM

Yeah, McQueary is done in college football now. A lot of good putting his career ahead of doing the right thing did him. That's maybe the one good thing to come out of this; none of the guys who kept this quiet have any kind of professional future. Cowardice and indifference when you witness a child being ******* raped is absolutely unjustifiable. I would rather lose any kind of career I had than do what he did. How he lived with the fact Sandusky was still a presence around campus, let alone was still a presence with children...man. Give me a five dollar an hour job working a fryer over that.

Brodeur · 11-08-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

SO who was the bad guy in the 1998 incident??
Paterno could have ended this a long time ago.

It makes no sense to hold McQueary more accountable than the AD/VP/University president or JoePa.

I don't hold McQueary more accountable than the lot, I think the AD/VP are absolutely horrific human beings and so is the Second Mile coordinator that continued to let it happen. I just called him a coward, which is what he is.

JoeJoeBrown · 11-08-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

SO who was the bad guy in the 1998 incident??
Paterno could have ended this a long time ago.

It makes no sense to hold McQueary more accountable than the AD/VP/University president or JoePa.

Totally agree.

WCH · 11-08-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

SO who was the bad guy in the 1998 incident??
Paterno could have ended this a long time ago.

It makes no sense to hold McQueary more accountable than the AD/VP/University president or JoePa.

I don't think that anybody is holding him more accountable than JoePa et al. Two of those people are facing criminal charges. McQueary's story in this situation is just a bit more disturbing, because he's the only person within the football program, that we know of, who was an eye-witness to the abuse.

JoeJoeBrown · 11-08-2011, 06:41 PM

The number of identified victims is now close to 20.

Kill yourself, Sandusky. Please. Just do it. None of these men and boys should be forced to testify.

I want pain for him, but screw it, he should just go away ASAP.

SolidGold · 11-08-2011, 06:48 PM

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The number of identified victims is now close to 20.

Kill yourself, Sandusky. Please. Just do it. None of these men and boys should be forced to testify.

I want pain for him, but screw it, he should just go away ASAP.

I just saw that too. Yea, I wouldn't be surprised if this vile POS just kills himself.

Brodeur · 11-08-2011, 07:07 PM

That would be the easy way out........I don't like the easy way out. I want him punished.

JoeJoeBrown · 11-08-2011, 07:13 PM

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That would be the easy way out........I don't like the easy way out. I want him punished.

I want him to suffer, but they need people to testify against him. Reliving that crap in the public eye, closed court or not, is something that I think would best be avoided.

Then, again, maybe it would great for some of those men to feel that they've done their part in making the bastard pay.

I just convinced myself that I'd rather have him suffer a billion jailhouse beatings and sexual violations.

EvilNixon · 11-08-2011, 07:19 PM

Pure Class

FlyingElvis · 11-08-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricEye

Yeah, McQueary is done in college football now. A lot of good putting his career ahead of doing the right thing did him. That's maybe the one good thing to come out of this; none of the guys who kept this quiet have any kind of professional future. Cowardice and indifference when you witness a child being ******* raped is absolutely unjustifiable. I would rather lose any kind of career I had than do what he did. How he lived with the fact Sandusky was still a presence around campus, let alone was still a presence with children...man. Give me a five dollar an hour job working a fryer over that.

Exactly how I feel about it. How any of these people can look in a mirror is beyond me. This isn't looking the other way when a booster kicks a fistful of bills to a player.

FuzzyGopher · 11-08-2011, 07:29 PM

We Are

JoeJoeBrown · 11-08-2011, 07:32 PM

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We Are

Dude, not cool.