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Old 02-25-2012, 02:59 PM    (permalink
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6027 is 6 foot 2 inches and 7/8ths.

Give the man his eighth of an inch!!
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Not to split hairs, but he's closer to 6'2 1/2 than he is 6'3. Regardless of my nitpickyness, i just see the numbers 602_ and it really doesn't matter how close that last number is to a 9, it doesn't come across as a "big" receiver to me.
That means your brain doesn't work correctly. Also, 7 is the highest it goes.

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Just an above average one. If you're right about his playing weight then he has an upper hand getting off the line. Now if he sucks in the vertical, like less than 37", THEN his height advantage really gets reduced. I think he can jump, though.
Splitting hairs is precisely what you're doing. He's much closer to 6'3 than 6'2", and will be listed as such. Any other receiver you think is "big" because he has a 3 after the 6 on his nfl.com page is just as likely to be "actually" only 6'2" in your eyes. And... what? Jumping less than 37" inches is now "sucking" at the vertical? Like numbers much?

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Ehh, I don't see him falling out of round 1. If he gets his fat *** into shape, and runs a 4.5, I think he'll be a top 8-12 pick, maybe higher. His upside is better than Blackmon, who I think is a number 2 WR at the NFL level. Plus, jeffery doesn't have the best QB situation right now and with Lattimore out for the season, he's the only guy defenses have to worry about.

WR Comparisons in my book:

Jeffery: if he gets into shape, could be Brandon Marshall. If not, he'll be a couch potato like USC's Mike Williams.

Blackmon: Anquan Bolden- may never be a true number 1 dominate WR, but if he's in the right offense and with a good Wr opposite of him, he'll be very successful.

Floyd: Larry Fitzgerald: He just has great hands, can dominate CBs with his strenghth, leaping ability to be a huge redzone threat. My opinion, best WR in this draft.
I have to disagree.....Boldin was a terrific #1 receiver while he had the opportunity. People forget that in his Rookie season he had ~1400yds receiving coming from Jeff Blake with virtually no other talent on the team. I do see Blackmon as a sort of Boldin-like receiver without the "bowling ball" ability and moves.

Floyd is the most Fitzgerald-like in this years draft.....although, I'm not sure any receiver can match his hands and body control.
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I have to disagree.....Boldin was a terrific #1 receiver while he had the opportunity. People forget that in his Rookie season he had ~1400yds receiving coming from Jeff Blake with virtually no other talent on the team. I do see Blackmon as a sort of Boldin-like receiver without the "bowling ball" ability and moves.

Floyd is the most Fitzgerald-like in this years draft.....although, I'm not sure any receiver can match his hands and body control.
Blackmon isn't a bowling ball but he'll take his share of guys down.

There's something about Michael Floyd that makes me say "but" after "he's loaded with talent." More Braylon Edwards than Fitzgerald to me...I'm sticking with Blackmon.
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I still dont think he'll fall out of the 1st.
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I'll see your newfound 'work ethic' for Alshon Jeffery because he lost almost 20# before the combine and I'll raise you the best set of man bewbs to ever grace Tuscaloosa...



Losing weight before the combine doesn't represent a good work ethic.
Being in peak condition for your position is a sign of a player's work ethic.
lost in this post is the fact that Cody is actually one of the league's better young nose tackles. Sorry he's not winning any beauty contests.
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Alshon weighed in at 213. Vertical 36.5 Standing Broad Jump 10'2"
No word on forty time yet. Guessing 4.5 based on above info.
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Some guy named Hunter Wise tweeted he ran a 4.52 forty and a 4.16 shuttle on SC Pro Day Site. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Alshon weighed in at 213. Vertical 36.5 Standing Broad Jump 10'2"
No word on forty time yet. Guessing 4.5 based on above info.
Hearing unofficially 4.38 on his first attempt.
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Hearing unofficially 4.38 on his first attempt.

If he's under 4.5, he's a Top 20 pick. Kevin Weidl ESPN tweeted that 4.38 He said his second was 4.47.
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Big Mike Williams 3.0?
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Big Mike Williams 3.0?
How so? did Mike Williams run a 4.3/4.4?
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Hearing unofficially 4.38 on his first attempt.
I read that was off and the first was like a 4.54. 2nd was a 4.47 with a stumble
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I read that was off and the first was like a 4.54. 2nd was a 4.47 with a stumble
They avg. the two out at the combine. So, It's 4.505
I believe that elevates his status. I can't get that Alabama
game out of my head from 2010. He was fantastic against
some great players. His qb sucked this year. Not his fault.
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Come to Baltimore Alshon. It's where you belong.
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They avg. the two out at the combine. So, It's 4.505
I believe that elevates his status. I can't get that Alabama
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some great players. His qb sucked this year. Not his fault.
Good points.

I've been critical of Alshon, but he did continue to improve his conditioning since combine and ran a pretty good 40. I gotta say he's definately got a chance of landing in 1st round after today. Definately moves him into top 5 WR.

No particular order:
Blackmon
Floyd
Wright
Hill
Jeffery

With the rookie cap, I think small chance all 5 could go in 1st round.
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I have a hard time believing he is going to keep the weight off. Yeah right now he is motivated to get drafted as high as possible, everyone loves money. Later when he is in his contract year same thing, if he last that long.
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I have a hard time believing he is going to keep the weight off. Yeah right now he is motivated to get drafted as high as possible, everyone loves money. Later when he is in his contract year same thing, if he last that long.

He played bigger for one season. He said it was a mistake. I really don't see the big deal, so many of us are ready to label our next Mike Williams. And if that picture never came out no one would even be discussing it.

He's the most talented receiver in the draft.
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[quote=holt_bruce81;2924795]He played bigger for one season. He said it was a mistake. I really don't see the big deal, so many of us are ready to label our next Mike Williams. And if that picture never came out no one would even be discussing it.

He's the most talented receiver in the draft.[/QUOTE]

So he will go top 5?

etter than blackmon
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He didn't say he's better, he said he's more talented. It's a very viable argument. Jeffery is bigger and equally (If not more) naturally athletic. He's not as violent as Blackmon is, but you can make the argument that he's more talented. Absolutely.
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dont you draft based on potential most talented coached up right = wins
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Top 5? No. But I do think both Jeffery and Floyd are more talented than Blackmon, but blackmon is the safest pick among the big three. I've been saying for months now that Blackmon is Michael Crabtree, a low no. 1/high no. 2. Where as the other two have a legit chance to be a dominant #1.

If either of em fall below 20, its a steal.
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