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Old 01-13-2013, 04:21 PM    (permalink
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Billick was the guy I wanted really bad last year when I thought Andy was gonna get canned. I would still love to have him, but I do kinda have my heart set on Bradley right now.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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No idea why Billick gets such a bad rap. The offenses in Baltimore were never great, but that's in part because they never invested considerable resources to make it better. And the dude won a Superbowl with a team that wasn't particularly great when he got it. Why he's a bum and Gruden is a genius I don't understand at all.
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No idea why Billick gets such a bad rap. The offenses in Baltimore were never great, but that's in part because they never invested considerable resources to make it better. And the dude won a Superbowl with a team that wasn't particularly great when he got it. Why he's a bum and Gruden is a genius I don't understand at all.
I always liked the guy. He cut it loose when he was in Minny because he had the pieces to do so. In Baltimore they were set on winning games with a stingy defense...which they did, and continued to add to it in the draft each and every year. They never really landed on a QB which kind of hurt, but the guy knows the importance of a good defense and has an offensive background. I would be more than happy with the hire.
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Would be a great pickup. When I read it this morning I thought it was for the OC job which I questioned, but if he isnt calling plays...good for you guys.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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Would be a great pickup. When I read it this morning I thought it was for the OC job which I questioned, but if he isnt calling plays...good for you guys.
Former Eagles QB coach Doug Pederson is the Chiefs OC it's his first gig as an OC.
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No idea why Billick gets such a bad rap. The offenses in Baltimore were never great, but that's in part because they never invested considerable resources to make it better. And the dude won a Superbowl with a team that wasn't particularly great when he got it. Why he's a bum and Gruden is a genius I don't understand at all.
He was hailed as an offensive genius due to his work in Minnesota yet was never able to put together a very respectable offense in Baltimore. His ability to scout QBs was a joke - he pretty much picked Boller because of his arm strength and nothing else. The reason he lasted so long was due to that defense which was one of the best units up until the last few years. I just don't think Billick is all that great - the defense that in place during most of his tenure made him look better than he really was.
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Raiders interviewed Greg Olsen, Jags QB coach for OC...

Marc Trestman and Mike Mularkey also are rumored to have interviews set up this week. Trestman on Monday.

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He was hailed as an offensive genius due to his work in Minnesota yet was never able to put together a very respectable offense in Baltimore. His ability to scout QBs was a joke - he pretty much picked Boller because of his arm strength and nothing else. The reason he lasted so long was due to that defense which was one of the best units up until the last few years. I just don't think Billick is all that great - the defense that in place during most of his tenure made him look better than he really was.
So he wiffed on Kyle Boller. He certainly wasn't the only one. Other than that, what considerable resources were ever spent on the quarterback position when he was around to make a difference? It was mostly a collection of veterans (Grbac, Cunningham, McNair) that did alright, about as well as you would expect. The defense prevented them from ever picking in the top picks to get a franchise quarterback.

Also, was the defense that Billick "inherited" great when he got there? Clearly not since the Ravens didn't win **** until he became coach. So why so much negativity directed towards him?
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So he wiffed on Kyle Boller. He certainly wasn't the only one. Other than that, what considerable resources were ever spent on the quarterback position when he was around to make a difference? It was mostly a collection of veterans (Grbac, Cunningham, McNair) that did alright, about as well as you would expect. The defense prevented them from ever picking in the top picks to get a franchise quarterback.

Also, was the defense that Billick "inherited" great when he got there? Clearly not since the Ravens didn't win **** until he became coach. So why so much negativity directed towards him?
I just don't think he is all that good. Any impact he had on the defense was minimal - they had quite a few quality d-coordinators go through Baltimore. Marvin Lewis, Mike Nolan, Rex Ryan were all guys that served as d-coordinators under his watch. He was never able to generate a big play offense which was what he was hailed as. It would be interesting to see how he does without the defense.
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I just don't think he is all that good. Any impact he had on the defense was minimal - they had quite a few quality d-coordinators go through Baltimore. Marvin Lewis, Mike Nolan, Rex Ryan were all guys that served as d-coordinators under his watch. He was never able to generate a big play offense which was what he was hailed as. It would be interesting to see how he does without the defense.
But Billick was responsible for assembling the staff that helped win the Super Bowl for the Ravens. I mean, you have to give him credit for that. His tenure in Baltimore was mostly successful despite not being able to find a decent starter at quarterback.
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But Billick was responsible for assembling the staff that helped win the Super Bowl for the Ravens. I mean, you have to give him credit for that. His tenure in Baltimore was mostly successful despite not being able to find a decent starter at quarterback.
Yea - that's true. I just don't see him being as successful anywhere else under other circumstances.
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Brian Daboll rejoins the Pats staff in some capacity. lolol.
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During Billick's era in Baltimore, he only had one OC for 2 seasons. First was 6-10 and then 13-3.

Billick had done with only one new face defensive coach. It was Mike Nolan.


Billick will need a legit OC and DC to run his team. I don't see any good available. It is not good timing.
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No idea why Billick gets such a bad rap. The offenses in Baltimore were never great, but that's in part because they never invested considerable resources to make it better. And the dude won a Superbowl with a team that wasn't particularly great when he got it. Why he's a bum and Gruden is a genius I don't understand at all.
Yeah I don't get it at all either. I think Billick's smug attitude hurts his perception.

Contrarily bc people like Gruden they overlook his short comings, which are significant in their own right.
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Gruden is terrible with young Qbs
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He also loves veterans too much. If he's given personnel control, expect to have the oldest team in the league under him.
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He also loves veterans too much. If he's given personnel control, expect to have the oldest team in the league under him.
Ah, the John Fox school of roster management.
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Ah, the John Fox school of roster management.
Yup. You know I love me some John Fox since he's still a Giant in my <3, but that's his biggest flaw as a coach. He loves his veterans too much as well.
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Billick will need a legit OC and DC to run his team.I don't see any good available. It is not good timing.
How could you possibly know? Most coordinators come from being position coaches, which are pretty impossible to evaluate as fans.
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McAdoo may very well leave GB if he had a chance to be a OC. The guy is only 35, I dont see him getting a HC job till he calls some plays first.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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How could you possibly know? Most coordinators come from being position coaches, which are pretty impossible to evaluate as fans.

I mean veteran or proven OC. Billick has been away from coaching.
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I don't understand why Philly has not given this job to Marc Trestman. He's shown in the OC role that he can be top 5 in the league in offense two different times with SF and Oak. He's great with QB's. And he's won it all two times in the league he's in now.
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I don't understand why Philly has not given this job to Marc Trestman. He's shown in the OC role that he can be top 5 in the league in offense two different times with SF and Oak. He's great with QB's. And he's won it all two times in the league he's in now.
They are gonna give the job to a guy they haven't interviewed yet? I dont mind interviewing him because I am intrigued...but jumping the gun a little bit my man.
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Philly is interviewing candidates and going the Al Davis route, interview 1 million candidates hear their ideas.

Find the best ideas and apply to their coach of choice.

Like interview Bill Billck, why? to find out how the Ravens are run and how their scouting works.
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