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Old 01-27-2014, 12:56 PM    (permalink
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Ben Tate is a free agent this off season could be a match made in heaven.
Uhh... no. Ray Rice and Bernard Pierce are just fine thank you.
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Apparently they feel that zone blocking will be the miracle drug to rid them of the 1-yard-run disease. Maybe it will work. Maybe.


Our running game was the worst when we ran the most zone blocking. Harbs was looking for coaching staff to go with his buddy Castillo instead of a system for joe flacco
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Our running game was the worst when we ran the most zone blocking. Harbs was looking for coaching staff to go with his buddy Castillo instead of a system for joe flacco
A coach rearranging things to please his figurative "girlfriend" is not a good idea. Now they have to start over with Kubiak.

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In the prospect position rankings on this site, there are quite a few 280-292 pound guys who the Browns could take a look at for the DE/34E combo spot (unless Billy Winn is the starter).

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Kubiak to Baltimore as OC.
Great hire. Probably not a good head coach, but the man knows offense. Of the Shanahan WCO variety at least. I wonder if we'll see Flacco on more roll-outs. Might be weird.
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You are making me feel better about this. I did enjoy Pettine's attacking style/hybrid scheme though.
Sounds like your D won't be making any drastic changes.

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“You can’t put it in a box. It’ll be opponent-specific and multi-dimensional. We are an attack scheme,” Schwartz said.
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I love how every new DC says they are going to be an attacking defense. To me, that sounds like lots of blitzing, which Schwartz didn't do a lot of in Detroit. "Attacking" is a word coaches use because it sounds good and it gets the media off their back.
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Great hire. Probably not a good head coach, but the man knows offense. Of the Shanahan WCO variety at least. I wonder if we'll see Flacco on more roll-outs. Might be weird.
I'd like it. Flacco moves fairly well on his feet and he has quite a few of his big throws when getting out of the pocket. Well, that might just be because there hasn't been much of a pocket for him to stand in the last few seasons but I'm confident Flacco can do it when it's actually scripted.
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Jeff Hafley left the Bills to join the Browns. Angelicho who was from the Bucs staff also to the Browns as TE Coach.
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At least two assistants, including Hafley, were going over with O'Neil. Anthony Weaver will likely leave, as well. No surprises there.

Bills also hired the previous QB coach, Todd Downing, from Detroit when we hired Schwartz.

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I love how every new DC says they are going to be an attacking defense. To me, that sounds like lots of blitzing, which Schwartz didn't do a lot of in Detroit. "Attacking" is a word coaches use because it sounds good and it gets the media off their back.
I was pretty relieved to see plenty of quotes about how we will play "hard and fast"
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Linehan to Dallas. Most likely clearing the way for Callahan to the Browns.
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I'm super pumped for Kubiak. He is a very very good OC. With his experience and sole focus on offense he is a great addition.

Flacco is actually pretty mobile, especially for his frame. He isn't a runner really but he can scramble for a first.

It's a shame no one has even touched Ware Phillips. He is an elite DC in my book. He should get an opportunity next go round.
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I'm super pumped for Kubiak. He is a very very good OC. With his experience and sole focus on offense he is a great addition.

Flacco is actually pretty mobile, especially for his frame. He isn't a runner really but he can scramble for a first.

It's a shame no one has even touched Ware Phillips. He is an elite DC in my book. He should get an opportunity next go round.
God damn it, don't remind me about Wade. Would do horrid things for Chip to cut Billy Davis loose and hire Wade.
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God damn it, don't remind me about Wade. Would do horrid things for Chip to cut Billy Davis loose and hire Wade.
Wade Phillips and his 5-2 defense would work well in Philadelphia. Trent Cole is more of a DE, as is Connor Barwin, who played for Phillips in Houston. I think DeMeco Ryans played for Wade too, unless I'm mistaken. NT Benny Logan would be better in that defense too because it's a one-gap scheme and he's small for the 0-technique he's playing now.
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Billy Davis is an aggressive DC who blitzes a ton too. I won't sit here and say he's the best DC, but it's hard to evaluate him when he has poor talent in the secondary. His blitzing style needs a strong secondary and Philly's secondary is awful.

Wade and Billy don't run the same defense, but they are both aggressive.

Why Wade doesn't have a job is beyond me though. He's significantly better than many DCs currently employed.
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Billy Davis is an aggressive DC who blitzes a ton too. I won't sit here and say he's the best DC, but it's hard to evaluate him when he has poor talent in the secondary. His blitzing style needs a strong secondary and Philly's secondary is awful.

Wade and Billy don't run the same defense, but they are both aggressive.

Why Wade doesn't have a job is beyond me though. He's significantly better than many DCs currently employed.
Billy had a decent year this year, but partner a guy like Wade with a guy like Chip on the offensive end and I am blowing fat loads all over the place.

You are right about our secondary being ******* horrendous, though. I would make a play for Jarius Byrd, and I really like guys like Gilbert and Pryor in the draft.
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Too bad Bernie Kosar is so messed up in the head, I think he could be a top tier offensive coordinator. He understands the game so well, it's amazing to listen to him some times when he broadcasts preseason games, he will dissect the play before it even happens.
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Why did the Browns hire a tight ends coach before they hired an offensive coordinator? When I read that I was thinking "Did somebody get the OC job there?" I guess that's the Browns -- a backward organization. I feel sorry for the loyal fans who where the brown and orange.
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I keep seeing articles/comments about people freaking out that we hired a no name coach and a guy who hasn't had coordinating experience.

I love the offseason, people freak out one way or the other with hires and having no knowledge of what the actual end result is going to be. Browns fans are the masters of offseason over exaggeration for example.

"Good thing we dodged a bullet with Chip Kelly, he's going to flop in the NFL where his offense will not work!"

"YES!!! The Browns hired Holmgren, there is no way this team isn't a perennial AFC North contender for the next 10 years"

"WOW BRADY QUINN LATE FIRST ROUND WHAT A STEAL, SUPER BOWL!"
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Interviewing Kyle Shanahan Wednesday for OC. I have real mixed feelings about this one. Guess Bill C isn't set in stone.
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"WOW BRADY QUINN LATE FIRST ROUND WHAT A STEAL, SUPER BOWL!"
Brady Quinn is going to make a comeback. He's one of the top 20 QB's in the league.
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Interviewing Kyle Shanahan Wednesday for OC. I have real mixed feelings about this one. Guess Bill C isn't set in stone.
If we get Manziel I think his experience with RG3 and the creativity for him might help.
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Brady Quinn is going to make a comeback. He's one of the top 20 QB's in the league.
Are you talking about the Arena Football League?
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If we get Manziel I think his experience with RG3 and the creativity for him might help.
Would rather have Bortles.
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