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Old 11-27-2011, 12:46 PM    (permalink
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If Matt Kalil returns to school, does Jonathan Martin move up to be valued the same as Kalil being a potential #2 Overall pick?

Will Morris Claiborne actually be a Top 5 pick considering team needs this year?

Does Michael Floyd become the #2 WR to go in the Top 10 & Alshon Jeffrey slides in the late 20s/2nd Round?

How high can the first Safety prospect be drafted (Barron, McDonald)?

How long will it be before we see the 2nd RB drafted behind Richardson (Miller)?

First LB off the board (Burfict, Kuechly, Te'o)?

#1 Rated DT (Still, Poe, Ta'amu, Thompson)?
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If Matt Kalil returns to school, does Jonathan Martin move up to be valued the same as Kalil being a potential #2 Overall pick?
Not even close. If Reiff hasn't already passed him as the #2 OT he will soon.

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Will Morris Claiborne actually be a Top 5 pick considering team needs this year?
Yes. Panthers, Rams, Cards, Jags all have a big hole at CB and he belongs there talent wise too.

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Does Michael Floyd become the #2 WR to go in the Top 10 & Alshon Jeffrey slides in the late 20s/2nd Round?
No. Floyd's talent is borderline top 10 but due to his position and his DUIs he'll go a little later. Definitely see Alshon dropping out of the first round.

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How high can the first Safety prospect be drafted (Barron, McDonald)?
Can't see one going in the first round.

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How long will it be before we see the 2nd RB drafted behind Richardson (Miller)?
Late first I think, he'd be a good luxury pick for an already good team.

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First LB off the board (Burfict, Kuechly, Te'o)?
If Upshaw counts I think he could be the first to go. If you're limiting it to just those 3 I'd say Te'o. I like Kuechly much better but Te'o has more scheme versatility.

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#1 Rated DT (Still, Poe, Ta'amu, Thompson)?
I'm on Ta'amu right now, Still is close behind but he's still inconsistent.
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If Matt Kalil returns to school, does Jonathan Martin move up to be valued the same as Kalil being a potential #2 Overall pick?
No, Martin is having a somewhat disappointing season compared to last year's campaign. He'll probably be drafted in the second half of the top ten regardless.

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Will Morris Claiborne actually be a Top 5 pick considering team needs this year?
He should go in that range, the Rams and Panthers are two teams to watch out for.

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Does Michael Floyd become the #2 WR to go in the Top 10 & Alshon Jeffrey slides in the late 20s/2nd Round?
Both of those claims seem reasonable at this point. Jeffery's ceiling is probably the 20s at this point and his floor is in the 30s-40s.

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How high can the first Safety prospect be drafted (Barron, McDonald)?
Late teens seems like the ceiling at this point. 17-21 range is my guess; a few teams should be looking for safety help.

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How long will it be before we see the 2nd RB drafted behind Richardson (Miller)?
Miller has a chance to go in the first via trade up, but without projecting trades I'll say the early second round.

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First LB off the board (Burfict, Kuechly, Te'o)?
That's a toss up between Burfict and Te'o. I think Philadelphia would go for Te'o but most other teams would rather have Burfict.

#1 Rated DT (Still, Poe, Ta'amu, Thompson)?[/quote]

Ta'amu should be the first off the board because there are a number of teams that need a nose tackle. I could also see Thompson going in the teens (Denver?) He should carry a grade similar to Corey Liuget.
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If Matt Kalil returns to school, does Jonathan Martin move up to be valued the same as Kalil being a potential #2 Overall pick?

Definitely not. #2 pick overall pick of the 2nd round seems more likely to me.

Will Morris Claiborne actually be a Top 5 pick considering team needs this year?

Very possible.

Does Michael Floyd become the #2 WR to go in the Top 10 & Alshon Jeffrey slides in the late 20s/2nd Round?

I would say that Floyd has pretty clearly passed Alshon however I really doubt Floyd goes Top 10. Though with the depth in this WR class, the WR rankings are not set in stone at all.

How high can the first Safety prospect be drafted (Barron, McDonald)?

I'll say TJ McDonald and he can go in the Top 25.

How long will it be before we see the 2nd RB drafted behind Richardson (Miller)?

Somewhere between 15-32.

First LB off the board (Burfict, Kuechly, Te'o)?

Kuechly

#1 Rated DT (Still, Poe, Ta'amu, Thompson)?

Poe and Thompson are neck and neck. Thompson has the most impressive film of any DT in this draft. However, Poe has put in a very solid year and no one match his upside.
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If Matt Kalil returns to school, does Jonathan Martin move up to be valued the same as Kalil being a potential #2 Overall pick?
Come draft day, Mike Adams will be the #2 tackle

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Will Morris Claiborne actually be a Top 5 pick considering team needs this year?
Panthers will most likely pick him up. Either way, he is a nice consolation prize for a team that misses there guy

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Does Michael Floyd become the #2 WR to go in the Top 10 & Alshon Jeffrey slides in the late 20s/2nd Round?
All depends on what kind of shape he is in when he comes into workouts. Right now he's looking like a late first. If he comes in out of shape he may very well drop out of the first round. If he comes out and rocks the combine, could recover but I don't see him regaining that #2 WR spot.

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How high can the first Safety prospect be drafted (Barron, McDonald)?
Might sneak into the first round if a team feels the need. Can't really say it would be worth it.

I'll also echo Tack here. T.J. hasn't taken my #1 spot yet but I think he will be come draft day

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How long will it be before we see the 2nd RB drafted behind Richardson (Miller)?
I have my eyes on the Broncos here. They probably play there way out of any valuable QBs in the first and BPA would probably land them a need at almost any position and Miller is a top talent on my big board.

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First LB off the board (Burfict, Kuechly, Te'o)?
I have Kuechly to the Eagles in my latest mock but and of those three wouldn't surprise me. Upshaw is right up there with him, It depends on the needs of the top 15 teams but one will likely be off the board quite early

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#1 Rated DT (Still, Poe, Ta'amu, Thompson)?
This is difficult unless you break it down into NT and DT.

#1 NT Ta'amu
#1 DT Thompson
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