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Old 12-04-2011, 08:02 PM    (permalink
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The point is that the precedent was set that OSU was better than that other team because they had already faced each other to decide who was better and that another team deserved a shot...

Also by your argument... if Ohio State got to play Florida again, they might have won so I can claim partial stake to the NC game that year because if it was replayed, my team might have won.

You really are 12, eh?

Ohio St. never wins agains the SEC in big games. Now you're just being an idiot.
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Then Iowa St. is better than Oklahoma St....
and LSU is better than Alabama, which will be the national championship game, so why even play it?
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and LSU is better than Alabama, which will be the national championship game, so why even play it?
exactly, might as well have Stanford play them! LOGIC!
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The point is that the precedent was set that OSU was better than that other team because they had already faced each other to decide who was better and that another team deserved a shot...

Also by your argument... if Ohio State got to play Florida again, they might have won so I can claim partial stake to the NC game that year because if it was replayed, my team might have won.



Haha your the one threatening to meet people in real life to "settle it" and I'm the internet tough guy?

I invited the person to discuss football at one of the nice sports bars there at Bridge Street... my treat. I enjoy meeting new people who like football.

If he wants to fight, well, we can do that too. But he better tell me that before I buy his beer...
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exactly, might as well have Stanford play them! LOGIC!
Oregon laughs at this.
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Oregon laughs at this.
that's kind of my point.
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You really are 12, eh?

Ohio St. never wins agains the SEC in big games. Now you're just being an idiot.
Nice argument:

Unfounded stigma and then the "your 12 argument"

I mean just completely ignore the fact that we beat an SEC team last year in the sugar bowl
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Nice argument:

Unfounded stigma and then the "your 12 argument"

I mean just completely ignore the fact that we beat an SEC team last year in the sugar bowl

Barely. Which made OSU 1-9 vs. the SEC in big games.
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Arkansas chocked away that game.
I'm not even trying to turn this into an Ohio State argument but really?...

So when we lose it's because we can't beat SEC teams but when we beat an SEC team it's not because we won, it's they choked it away?
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remember when Nick Saban said "A team that doesn't win their conference should not play in the national championship"? I wonder if he'll say they shouldn't play in the NC...
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Barely. Which made OSU 1-9 vs. the SEC in big games.
If we got to play all those 9 games over again we could have won though... because the first time we lost it didn't prove anything
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As much as I hate that Alabama gets a rematch, Virginia Tech playing in a BCS bowl is the biggest travesty among the BCS bowls.
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As much as I hate that Alabama gets a rematch, Virginia Tech playing in a BCS bowl is the biggest travesty among the BCS bowls.
I would say the Big East getting in at all is the biggest, but we knew about that already...but it looks even worse now that it's here.
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Should conferences allow for rematches or should they let the second place in the division team get a chance? Afterall, the best teams don't need to play each other again when a less capable team thinks they deserve it more.
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I would say the Big East getting in at all is the biggest, but we knew about that already...but it looks even worse now that it's here.
Haha yea, but that one isn't controllable. VT over any other BCS-bowl eligible team is awful though. They have the weakest case of any team ranked in the top 14 yet they get in while teams like Kansas State, Arkansas, and Boise State are all in non-BCS bowls. Ugh.
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Should conferences allow for rematches or should they let the second place in the division team get a chance? Afterall, the best teams don't need to play each other again when a less capable team thinks they deserve it more.
For the most part everyone in a conference does play each other and there is a Tiebreaker system which decides it, the rules are much more clearly defined... not quite sure how that makes a difference in allowing a rematch in the NC game
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As much as I hate that Alabama gets a rematch, Virginia Tech playing in a BCS bowl is the biggest travesty among the BCS bowls.
It really is a joke. VA Tech just got smoked yesterday, its not like they impressed voters in their final game...it should have done the opposite. Like Herbstreit said...is this really what the BCS is coming too?
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It really is a joke. VA Tech just got smoked yesterday, its not like they impressed voters in their final game...it should have done the opposite. Like Herbstreit said...is this really what the BCS is coming too?
That is what the BCS is coming to. That is the problem. It is all about money. They don't give a **** about determining who is best. That is why I am not watching the National Championship game and why I encourage everyone else not to as well. The only way to prevent this bull **** from happening again is to make this the lowest rated Championship Game ever.
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Statements like this are why human voters shouldn't determine who the top two teams in nation are.
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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin.  One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one.  Awesome.  Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks. 
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remember when Nick Saban said "A team that doesn't win their conference should not play in the national championship"? I wonder if he'll say they shouldn't play in the NC...

I'm sure you can find a quote by Pete Carroll somewhere on the internet where he says teams with losing records shouldn't be in the playoffs...

Or a quote by Les Miles in 2007 saying "We're still undefeated in regulation"... referring to his 2 loss LSU squad..

I'm not even sure anyone has substantiated that supposed quote by Nick Saban yet. However, even if he did say it, it has to be put in the proper context.

He was talking about the scenario in 2003 when LSU, USC, and Oklahoma all deserved to be playing in the national championship game, but the system wouldn't allow for it. Oklahoma lost 35-7 in their conference title game to Kansas St.

A.) It's not an apples to oranges comparison.

B.) The SEC has had to play conference championship games in order to get a spot in the national title game while other conferences (Big-10, Pac-10, etc.) didn't have to play the extra game. Funny how it's different now that the shoe is on the other foot all of a sudden...

C.) That's not how Saban said it. Again, proper context is important. Saban wasn't insinuating that a team should NEVER play in the national championship game if they're not conference champions.
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I just had a friend use the argument of "Oklahoma State doesn't deserve a chance because they didn't play a conference championship game." My response? "Neither did Alabama you ******* idiot!" I'm not sure I can be friends with someone so stupid.



That is what the BCS is coming to. That is the problem. It is all about money. They don't give a **** about determining who is best. That is why I am not watching the National Championship game and why I encourage everyone else not to as well. The only way to prevent this bull **** from happening again is to make this the lowest rated Championship Game ever.


It won't be. It's just a bunch of whiners whining because all of their cindarella stories all lost games they weren't supposed to lose... and pissing and moaning because the two best teams in the country are both in the same division within the SEC.

The LSU/Bama game was the highest rated game CBS has had in 24 years. You'll be watching it too...
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It won't be. It's just a bunch of whiners whining because all of their cindarella stories all lost games they weren't supposed to lose... and pissing and moaning because the two best teams in the country are both in the same division within the SEC.

The LSU/Bama game was the highest rated game CBS has had in 24 years. You'll be watching it too...
No I won't be. My college is playing a basketball game that night and I'll be down in Deland, Florida watching it. But if it was LSU-Oklahoma State, I would be watching that instead.
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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin.  One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one.  Awesome.  Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks. 
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