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Old 12-12-2011, 03:51 PM    (permalink
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The thing that worries me is I don't know if the redzone issues can be fixed. I'm sure a lot of it comes down to execution, but then I'm sure a certain amount of it just comes down to talent. It's been an issue all year long and there really isn't any excuse for lack of progress. Same with third downs either.
Well when Jimmy Raye was here, the redzone O was pretty good. Now it's just weird. It was crappy to see how easy Arizona scored in there, they just ran a little screen and it was over...yet we are stuck running QB sweeps and odd rollouts.

I still think the back-shoulder to Braylon could work if him and Alex can get it down.
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The thing that worries me is I don't know if the redzone issues can be fixed. I'm sure a lot of it comes down to execution, but then I'm sure a certain amount of it just comes down to talent. It's been an issue all year long and there really isn't any excuse for lack of progress. Same with third downs either.
Honestly, I think Roman and Jimbaugh have gotten a little too "cute" in the red-zone. Fade passes are not us. We need to get back mauling people in the run game. Heavy sets and play-action off of that. I get that Harbs wanted to open up the offense more and show teams we could throw it around but that's not what got us off to the great start. Got to get back to power running and letting that spring board the passing game. The O-Line seems to have regressed and they need to pick it up as well.
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The thing that worries me is I don't know if the redzone issues can be fixed. I'm sure a lot of it comes down to execution, but then I'm sure a certain amount of it just comes down to talent. It's been an issue all year long and there really isn't any excuse for lack of progress. Same with third downs either.
I see more potential for them to fix the red zone issues than the 3rd down issues. Alex has been pretty good in the redzone but the numbers are a little misleading because he hasn't taken a ton of chances near the goalline. 3rd downs come to execution and are often the downs where Alex is getting pressure and he plays his worst. They just have to get more aggressive just outside the red zone and take come shots or better use their personnel when they get in the red zone (such as throwing a jump ball or back shoulder fade to VD instead of Ginn for example).

I still can't believe that the Niners went with 2 pass play roll outs on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 (with plenty of time remaining) on their last drive to end the game yesterday. Yuck.
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Third downs are tough when they can't run the ball, usually that means third and longgggg....especially when they are getting penalties.
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Third downs are tough when they can't run the ball, usually that means third and longgggg....especially when they are getting penalties.
Except Gore had 8 for 72. So we were running the ball effectively. Next.
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He actually had 10 for 72, but 57 of those came on two carries. We did not run the ball effectively
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He actually had 10 for 72, but 57 of those came on two carries. We did not run the ball effectively
Yeah, those 2 don't count, man.
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He actually had 10 for 72, but 57 of those came on two carries. We did not run the ball effectively
yeah there was definitely trouble with a consistent ground game, no doubt about it. This team gets in a LOT of third and longs, whether its' a penalty or a sack given up, or even negative runs/passes (That Delanie screen, ugh), when the other team is getting pressure we just fold in all aspects. If we can get protection like we did in the Giants game, we will be alright....one can only hope.

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Yeah, those 2 don't count, man.
Two big runs with 19 bad ones =/= running the ball effectively
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Two big runs with 19 bad ones =/= running the ball effectively
19 all bad? Now we're getting into hyperbole. Gore was getting a few 4 and 5 yard gainers.
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That is why Gore had 8 carries for 15 yards outside of his two big runs.
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That is why Gore had 8 carries for 15 yards outside of his two big runs.
And some of them were losses for yards. And some of them were 3,4,5 yard gains. Lol.
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Six of Gore's 10 carries went for two or less yards. Four of Hunter's eight went for two of less yards. We did not run the ball effectively
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Six of Gore's 10 carries went for two or less yards. Four of Hunter's eight went for two of less yards. We did not run the ball effectively
Yards per carry says otherwise. But yes, next time, instead of Gore going for 10-72, he needs to go 25 for 100 and all of them being 4 yard runs. Damn you Frank...not helping this excellent QB out.
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Yards per carry says otherwise. But yes, next time, instead of Gore going for 10-72, he needs to go 25 for 100 and all of them being 4 yard runs. Damn you Frank...not helping this excellent QB out.
I would much rather have an RB go 25 for 100 with all of them being four yards then him having 15 for 100 with one 80 yard run.
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I would much rather have an RB go 25 for 100 with all of them being four yards then him having 15 for 100 with one 80 yard run.
Then you would HATE Adrian peterson as your running back.
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This is what is has come to. Blaming Gore, Hunter and the o-line for not getting "consistent" yards. Ever thought maybe it's cause they were blitzing the eff out of us? Because Alex Smith is very sub par under duress? Nah.....COULDN'T BE THAT. NO WAY.
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Okay smart-ass, the Jim Harbaugh Offense then. Happy? Where did all these morons come from all of a sudden? Lose a game and its troll season around here.
I'm starting to think people from 49ers.com are coming here now.
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lol, it's rejects/banned guys from news.com (mostly going crazy over Alex, as you probably figured), but that is a great site with a really cool group of members...the people there are freaking hilarious, provides laughs like none other.

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lol, it's rejects/banned guys from news.com (mostly going crazy over Alex, as you probably figured), but that is a great site with a really cool group of members...the people there are freaking hilarious, provides laughs like none other.
Oh so that's what it is. I figured it was probably people that have been banned from either the main site or somewhere else.

Trolls gotta roll. Go figure.
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Trolls gotta roll. Go figure.
I dunno if it's necessarily trolling as much as it is being disturbingly obsessed with one player. Alex will never be great, most of us get it, but most of us also see there's no point in obsessing over it; it's quite easy to recognize circumstance, especially this offseason. I actually agree with some of the observations regarding Alex's shortcomings , most of us realize this stuff already.

I'm not thrilled about Alex as our QB, but I can recognize when he's been playing well and I'm thankful as heck we didn't end up with any of the rejects that were out there. I would never let one player ruin my enthusiasm for this team though, this season has been way too much fun and has me looking forward to each week for once. That Giants game blew my mind, I'm hoping for a repeat performance.

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