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Old 12-22-2011, 09:01 PM    (permalink
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Where do you guys see him being drafted?

Based on talent alone I think he's clearly the best CB in the draft. How much do his character concerns affect his draft status in April?
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Where do you guys see him being drafted?

Based on talent alone I think he's clearly the best CB in the draft. How much do his character concerns affect his draft status in April?

Late First. I haven't seen any of his play from this year, so I'm not sure how fair this is, but I'd take him over Mo.
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I could see him in a Ravens uniform if he falls and others don't (Like Taze or Kuechly). Maybe Mike Adams or Konz over him but thats about it, he's next on my wish list and Oz is just the man to pull the trigger.

So yea, late first
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He'll probably go late first...can't see him escaping the first 10 picks in the second round. Carolina looks like a good spot for him.
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Where do you guys see him being drafted?

Based on talent alone I think he's clearly the best CB in the draft. How much do his character concerns affect his draft status in April?
Morris Claiborne is much more complete and far better IMO.

I think Jenkins will wind up in either Dallas or Cincinnati with one of their three combined first round picks.
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JJs stats suffered pretty badly this year. NO ONE would throw his way. He had 1 or 2 ints all year. But good grief he is one of the best punt returners I have ever seen.
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He'll probably go late first...can't see him escaping the first 10 picks in the second round. Carolina looks like a good spot for him.
I would LOVE that to happen (as a Panthers fan).

I just worry about his legal issues. Has he kept his nose clean this year? He has all the talent in the world it's just whether he'll be suspended for half his career or not.
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Morris Claiborne is much more complete and far better IMO.

I think Jenkins will wind up in either Dallas or Cincinnati with one of their three combined first round picks.
Each to their own I guess. I much prefer Jenkins.
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The Bengals almost seem like too good of a fit.
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I would LOVE that to happen (as a Panthers fan).

I just worry about his legal issues. Has he kept his nose clean this year? He has all the talent in the world it's just whether he'll be suspended for half his career or not.
I believe he got ejected from one game for getting into a fight. Wouldn't be a mark against most but with his issues it will be brought up. I don't think there has been any legal issues though. I agree and think he could be the best CB in the draft but he needs to get his head on straight. He won't get out of the first round so long as he doesn't get enticed by a little smoke between now and draft day
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He did get ejected 1 time this year. He apparantly threw a punch from his back with 3 guys around him. The receiver he was covering went from 0 catches to like 8 including the game tying td in the 2nd half. (we lost in ot). Other than that 1 episode, he kept himself clean according to what has been reported. I wish him the best of luck.
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He measured in at 5'9. He is going to drop.
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Why? Because all you do is watch ESPN and wrongfully think Jerry Jones loves players with character concerns? The people things actually believe these days is hilarious.

If the Cowboys pick Jenkins, it will have nothing to do with Jerry not caring about his character issues, it will be because they need a CB and he is one of the best players left on their board.
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Being 5'9 hurts him, but I think his play and interviews will be more important. It's not a secret that if he stayed out of trouble he'd likely be a top 15 pick, so the practices is where he will get his chance to shine. I like Jenkins fit in Dallas...
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I can't see a 5'9" CB going top 15. He'll never be able to match up against #1s in the NFL. He's strictly a nickel DB at that size.
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Jenkins at 14 is pretty much impossible if the cowboys have any idea what they are doing because they have pretty much the exact same player in Orlando Scandrick who is 24 years old and locked up long term. Picking him would be stupid.

The only way Jenkins is a cowboys is if he falls to 45 and it's a great value.
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I can't see a 5'9" CB going top 15. He'll never be able to match up against #1s in the NFL. He's strictly a nickel DB at that size.
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The pros knew he was 5'9" and they according to Mayock, rank him even with his character issues, as the 2nd CB in the draft. That is pretty impressive and a sure sign he has top 10 talent, IMO.
I don't know if he will go top 15 but it won't be because of talent but because his character issues will make him drop substantially.
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Brent Grimes also says hello I'm overrated and would get pooped on by any top 20 WR in the NFL one on one. He's an above average number 2 CB who is overrated because of the year he had 6 INT's and it's a nice story because of his size and he was undrafted from Shippensburg and went to NFL Europe before making it in the NFL.

He's an middle-tier CB who can be above average from time to time. Spending a first or even second round pick on a player of that skill set is a terrible reach. Throw Brent Grimes in this NFL draft where teams know what he will turn into in the NFL, and I doubt he is even a 1st round pick.
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Brent Grimes also says hello I'm overrated and would get pooped on by any top 20 WR in the NFL one on one. He's an above average number 2 CB who is overrated because of the year he had 6 INT's and it's a nice story because of his size and he was undrafted from Shippensburg and went to NFL Europe before making it in the NFL.

He's an middle-tier CB who can be above average from time to time. Spending a first or even second round pick on a player of that skill set is a terrible reach. Throw Brent Grimes in this NFL draft where teams know what he will turn into in the NFL, and I doubt he is even a 1st round pick.


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has a documented substance abuse issue and lacks elite speed. How is he a first rounder again???
I don't know what his speed is, we'll find that out at the combine. However, he is an aggressive ball hawk with outstanding instincts and awareness. He blankets receivers in man or zone. He has that special ability to get his hands on a ball. Teams looking for a playmaker will be enamored by his ability.
Character issues will be a hot topic when scouts and GM's talk about this prospect. How far it drops him is anybody's guess?
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Brent Grimes also says hello I'm overrated and would get pooped on by any top 20 WR in the NFL one on one. He's an above average number 2 CB who is overrated because of the year he had 6 INT's and it's a nice story because of his size and he was undrafted from Shippensburg and went to NFL Europe before making it in the NFL.

He's an middle-tier CB who can be above average from time to time. Spending a first or even second round pick on a player of that skill set is a terrible reach. Throw Brent Grimes in this NFL draft where teams know what he will turn into in the NFL, and I doubt he is even a 1st round pick.
You do not warrant the effort it would require to apply more keystrokes than this. You're foolish, he's a #1 CB, always has been since he became a starter, and has matched up extremely well with everyone he's been across for the last 2+ seasons. 4 years ago he was raw and abused, he became a polished finish product...ask Drew Brees.
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