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Old 12-28-2011, 02:49 PM    (permalink
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Was watching Trent Richardson vs Auburn and 55 popped out at me. Looked him up, found he was a 5-star recruit coming out and he looks the part. First team SEC this year, 44 tackles and 13.5 tackles for a loss, 9.5 sacks and 5 forced fumbles. But I haven't watched a whole lot of Auburn games this year, so I'm working with a pretty small sample size. What do the SEC watchers on this forum think? Is he a potential first rounder next year? The only negative thing I've seen in my brief research is that he's not a real heavy guy, but he also has pretty slow 40 times listed on his various scouting profiles. His initial step looks great, but a lack of long speed might limit his positional versatility in the NFL; if he's still only 240 lbs as a college sophomore, he doesn't really seem like a bookend-type defensive anchor, but if you want him to play in a 3-4 you're going to expect him to cover and if he's running a 4.8 or 4.9, he's going to have some problems keeping up with the guys he's supposed to cover. So I've seen some things I like, but I'm wondering if other people who've watched him play more have more to say about how he might match up in the NFL from a positional and weight/speed perspective.
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From an Alabama fan who's watched at least 7 Auburn games this season, I wouldn't take him in the first. Maybe in the 3rd as a guy to play in a platoon at DE, but that's only if he doesn't add on more weight by the time he declares. If he can add 20 more pounds(after seeing him up close, he could definitely carry the weight well, IMHO) and keep the production, then I could absolutely see him getting into the first round.

If I had to guess what he'd be in the pros, it'd be strictly as a 4-3 DE as I don't think I've ever seen him drop into coverage. It'll probably be easier to guess how well he'd translate to pros and what position he'd play after Chizik gets a new DC who might use him better than Roop did.
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Good early call here.
I've been reading anything I can from scouts lately, and this guy seems to be a quiet riser who I think will have a Bruce Irvin type impact both on draft day and as a rookie.

I really like this guy as a Von Miller/Irvin/Alden Smith type pass rusher. Creating havoc. He also blows up some runs here.....


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From an Alabama fan who's watched at least 7 Auburn games this season, I wouldn't take him in the first. Maybe in the 3rd as a guy to play in a platoon at DE, but that's only if he doesn't add on more weight by the time he declares. If he can add 20 more pounds(after seeing him up close, he could definitely carry the weight well, IMHO) and keep the production, then I could absolutely see him getting into the first round.

If I had to guess what he'd be in the pros, it'd be strictly as a 4-3 DE as I don't think I've ever seen him drop into coverage. It'll probably be easier to guess how well he'd translate to pros and what position he'd play after Chizik gets a new DC who might use him better than Roop did.
I see him as a fit for the 49ers.
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Lemonier is really hard to evaluate. One game he looks like a 1st Round draft pick. Other games he looks like a 5th round draft pick. I see him best as a situational pass rusher in the NFL. Right now I have 3rd/4th Rounder but would not surprise me to see him in the 2nd round.
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steelers linebacker coach put him through a lot of OLB drills a while back
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If you liked Justin Houston when he came out, you should love Lemonier.
I think he has a very similar skillset and will only improve in the NFL.

I would not be surprised to see the Steelers take him in the first, but otherwise he's probably a 2nd rounder.
Doesn't seem to be a knucklehead and comes across as coachable in interviews.

Unlike Jarvis Jones and Demontre Moore, Lemonier has the measurables you want in a top tier 34 OLB prospect.
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steelers linebacker coach put him through a lot of OLB drills a while back
That's a team who knows a few things about OLB's.... I hope this kid doesn't end up in the NFC.... I think he's gonna be a good one.
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Played on a bad team which is hurting him a little I think. His get off is great.. like his being shot out of gun. Would like to see him in Pitt or with the Jets. He's one of the players I want to do well in the league.
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Lemonier is really hard to evaluate. One game he looks like a 1st Round draft pick. Other games he looks like a 5th round draft pick. I see him best as a situational pass rusher in the NFL. Right now I have 3rd/4th Rounder but would not surprise me to see him in the 2nd round.
He definitely quit playing hard by mid season, decent talent before he quit on his team, pretty rotten after he gave it up.

GM's are always scared to draft a quitter and he will have to do a real selling job that he won't quit in the pros. It really down graded his character no matter what the excuse. Probably a late second, early third.
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Auburn quit playing, not just lemonier
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The coaches quit coaching at Auburn, which is why they were all fired. Van Gorder couldn't develope a rash, much less a top DL prospect.

That program is a complete dumpster fire on and off the field. I don't blame Lemonier for getting out at his first opportunity.

Fact is Lemonier tests as an elite caliber athlete, and I think he's 1st round talent. Bama recruited him to play the 'jack' linebacker position that Upshaw ended up playing.


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If Steelers go elsewhere Round 1, really think Lemonier will be a target in Round 2.
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If Steelers go elsewhere Round 1, really think Lemonier will be a target in Round 2.
thats 100000x better than them going after john simon like is being rumored. I think it would be between Bell and Lemonier, hopefully they make the right decision and wait for bell in 3
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