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Old 12-29-2011, 02:07 AM    (permalink
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Personally I love Doug Martin. He's built like a tank, runs in between the tackles well, and really uses his low center of gravity. He has good quickness and also has pretty good breakaway speed. He has soft hands and I don't see any real problems with route running. Haven't seen him much in pass pro, but from what I've seen he hasn't really had huge problems. His stats are solid and I think he'll light up the combine.

Really easy to see a Ray Rice or MJD comparison with about the same build and running style.

I would have no problem using a late 1st or an early 2nd on him, and he's probably my #2 RB behind Richardson.

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Doug Martin is the upper-middle-class man's Mark Ingram. Nothing really special about him, but absolutely everything is solid.
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I actually like his burst a little better than Ingram, and I think he has better hands out of the backfield. (Do recall that I'm not a fan of Ingram.)

I'd love, love love, love for the Bears to take Martin with one of their 3rd rounders to backup/potentially replace Forte if need be.

Martin is incredibly balanced and I think he does everything relatively well, even if he doesn't totally blow you away in any one area.
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I like Doug Martin and he does compare to MJD and Rice but I don't feel like he moves as well laterally as either of those two guys. He's a much more linear runner, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Was going to start a new thread out of enthusiasm, but held back and found one already created. I'm starting to get pretty excited about this Martin guy, especially since he seems to be a 2nd-3rd round guy in most people's eyes. Like DBNYDP, I've got him as my no. 2 running back right now behind Richardson. Every time I watch him I come away more impressed. He's got legitimate breakaway speed, terrific balance and runs like the Tazmanian Devil. He's got the perfect build and even has good hands. I'm sure it's not that big of a deal, but I also love that he played some strong safety earlier in his career. That's the kind of attitude you want in your primary ballcarrier. He's a pretty violent runner who's got some serious quicks and speed to him as well. Tons of yards after contact. Despite having speed, doesn't just look to bounce it outside; he's really good at following his blockers and seeing and hitting the holes hard, whether that means angling for the sideline or turning it back inside.

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I'm really starting to like what I've seen from Martin. I was watching some Ray Rice highlights from his days at Rutgers earlier and there's some eerily similar traits there and they are almost identical in size. Martin jumps off the screen everytime I watch him and somebody that is quickly rising up my board. I'm looking forward to watching him a bit closer at the Senior Bowl.
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I'm really starting to like what I've seen from Martin. I was watching some Ray Rice highlights from his days at Rutgers earlier and there's some eerily similar traits there and they are almost identical in size. Martin jumps off the screen everytime I watch him and somebody that is quickly rising up my board. I'm looking forward to watching him a bit closer at the Senior Bowl.
I like your comparison of his running style to Rice.
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Martin is 3rd on my rankings and i think hes gonna be a star!
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I actually like his burst a little better than Ingram, and I think he has better hands out of the backfield. (Do recall that I'm not a fan of Ingram.)

I'd love, love love, love for the Bears to take Martin with one of their 3rd rounders to backup/potentially replace Forte if need be.

Martin is incredibly balanced and I think he does everything relatively well, even if he doesn't totally blow you away in any one area.
Agree with all of this, and I liked Ingram, but didn't love him. I don't think the Bears would go with a RB that early, but if you don't work out a long-term deal with Forte you gotta keep the option open. Forte long-term deal or not, I'd hate to draft a RB in the 3rd if 2 of DE, WR, LT are NOT filled in free agency. They take care of a couple of those position with veterans, then they can go after WR, CB in the first 2 rounds and then get a LB and RB with their 2 3rd rounders.
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I like Martin, never really looked too much into RBs as the Falcons don't need one right now, I mean they could use a CoP back that's got some explosion and Martin doesn't really fit that, but I would love to see him in Atlanta getting groomed to take over for Turner. He reminds me of Michael Turner in terms of patience and vision, the difference to me is that he's got the athletic ability to make those cuts when he sees the holes.

A lot of times Turner will see a cutback, but just can't really get back the other direction fast enough, Martin seems to have that ability. You know another guy that he reminds me of, Curtis Martin. That guy was nothing 'special' but man he was a work horse for years and years. I know it's got a lot to do with the last name, but I remember watching him run and he was a down hill type runner too, but he could always seem to just get off the hit enough to squirt for a couple more yards.

Not elite speed, not elite anything really, but I'd say he's got some excellent vision and cutback ability that would be 2nd tier, he's not going to rival shady or anyone like that, but for a back with a thicker build, he's got very good ability to change directions.
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I saw Doug Martin 2 years ago and was thoroughly impressed. Thick as ****, thighs the size of beer kegs, and as aggressive running the ball as Awnold in Commando. A sweet explosiveness.


Give me this kid in the late first and I'm happier than a pig in ****.
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Hmm looks like a good mid round pickup for a team with lightning and looking for a little more thunder in the running game.

Reminds me a little of Ridley who we drafted last year in the third.

Is it just me or does Detroit look like a great landing spot for him in the 3rd or 4th? I think the lightning of Best and Smith, middle of Leshoure (and give him time to get knee back) and thunder of Martin.
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Hmm looks like a good mid round pickup for a team with lightning and looking for a little more thunder in the running game.

Reminds me a little of Ridley who we drafted last year in the third.

Is it just me or does Detroit look like a great landing spot for him in the 3rd or 4th? I think the lightning of Best and Smith, middle of Leshoure (and give him time to get knee back) and thunder of Martin.
That's way too many RBs, IMO. Smith proved to be a good all-around back, Best is the dangerous threat, and Leshoure is kind of the power runner.
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That's way too many RBs, IMO. Smith proved to be a good all-around back, Best is the dangerous threat, and Leshoure is kind of the power runner.

Best is dangerous yet I would rather limit his straight rushed and increase him in other areas. Smith looked alright, but do you think anyone is banking on him? Leshoure is a big guy, but not a huge power guy, and who knows how he comes back from his injury.

Four guys is not too many if you aren't going to have that one all around guy.
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Best is dangerous yet I would rather limit his straight rushed and increase him in other areas. Smith looked alright, but do you think anyone is banking on him? Leshoure is a big guy, but not a huge power guy, and who knows how he comes back from his injury.

Four guys is not too many if you aren't going to have that one all around guy.
If they draft Martin, they might as well just get rid of Smith and LeShoure.
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I don't know about this. Although it is not exactly the same, but I see the Lions building their offense like the Pats and Saints. Both team have a huge platoon of backs.

We spent a second and a third on a running back (granted we lost Vereen) we kept Woodhead BGE and even Kevin Faulk.

Leshoure is going to stay around, and I doubt Smith is going to look elsewhere for work, so why not keep him around?
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Hmm looks like a good mid round pickup for a team with lightning and looking for a little more thunder in the running game.

Reminds me a little of Ridley who we drafted last year in the third.

Is it just me or does Detroit look like a great landing spot for him in the 3rd or 4th? I think the lightning of Best and Smith, middle of Leshoure (and give him time to get knee back) and thunder of Martin.
That there is a LOT of Running Backs.

Forget a RBBC, more like a Running-Back-By-Time-Share.
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Sounds like he's ballin' at the Senior Bowl, just like I expected. I think he can be a Pro Bowler.
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Sounds like he's ballin' at the Senior Bowl, just like I expected. I think he can be a Pro Bowler.
Completely agree! He's second in my RB rankings behind Richardson.
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I am a big fan of his also. I like the Rice comparison because I think Martin has the hands to be a 60+ reception guy. I'm not sure he can climb as high as the 1st round and leapfrog Miller or Wilson because Teams may want their speed over Martin's power.

I would love for the Browns to get him in the 3rd but we would probably need to use #37 on him.
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