Is Jim Harbaugh on the same level as his brother?

VernonLawson89 · 01-25-2012, 05:04 PM

Well, is he?

SuperPacker · 01-25-2012, 05:05 PM

He's past his brother. By a long way IMO.

niel89 · 01-25-2012, 05:10 PM

I have them pretty close. Jim give you the added benefit of being a real good offensive mind while John isn't a OC or a DC. What Jim did to turn around SF so quickly was outstanding. Both are top head coaches and would be a welcome addition to almost any franchise.

A Perfect Score · 01-25-2012, 05:14 PM

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He's past his brother. By a long way IMO.

Well this will be interesting to hear. How exactly? John Harbaugh took over a 5-11 Ravens team and led them to the playoffs 4 years in a row.

SuperPacker · 01-25-2012, 05:16 PM

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Well this will be interesting to hear. How exactly? John Harbaugh took over a 5-11 Ravens team and led them to the playoffs 4 years in a row.

But Jim took a team that was s*** for 6 years straight to 13-3. Theres a difference.

A Perfect Score · 01-25-2012, 05:17 PM

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But Jim took a team that was s*** for 6 years straight to 13-3. Theres a difference.

Yeah...in the NFC West, the worst division in football. The AFC North is arguably the best. Come now sir, you're better then that.

SuperPacker · 01-25-2012, 05:19 PM

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Yeah...in the NFC West, the worst division in football. The AFC North is arguably the best. Come now sir, you're better then that.

Fine then, take out there divisional games and they still have a great record.

niel89 · 01-25-2012, 05:21 PM

The 49ers weren't an untalented team, they were just very poorly coached. It's not like he had to completely overturned the roster.

Caddy · 01-25-2012, 05:48 PM

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The 49ers weren't an untalented team, they were just very poorly coached. It's not like he had to completely overturned the roster.

John inherited a much better team when he became HC..

Ness · 01-25-2012, 05:57 PM

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Well this will be interesting to hear. How exactly? John Harbaugh took over a 5-11 Ravens team and led them to the playoffs 4 years in a row.

And he's never gone one and done. Jim Harbaugh has a long ways to go. This could very well be a fluke year.

abaddon41_80 · 01-25-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

John inherited a much better team when he became HC..

2007 Ravens:
5-11
22nd ranked defense
24th ranked offense

2010 49ers:
6-10
16th ranked defense
24th ranked offense

Just saying.

vidae · 01-25-2012, 06:29 PM

This is a really pointless thread. I'll reserve judgment for a while, like say, after Jim has coached more than a single season.

Caddy · 01-25-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by abaddon41_80

2007 Ravens:
5-11
22nd ranked defense
24th ranked offense

2010 49ers:
6-10
16th ranked defense
24th ranked offense

Just saying.

Suggs/Ray Lewis/Ed Reed

Use stats any way you want, but any coach would dream to inherit a D with guys like that already installed.

SickwithIt1010 · 01-25-2012, 06:54 PM

Idk to be completely honest, but I will come out and say that I knew Jim would be a great coach regardless of where he was coaching. He is just plain and simple one of the best coaches in the game of football right now. I like John, I really do...but if I had my choice I think I would take Jim...just my preference, though.

K Train · 01-25-2012, 06:56 PM

alex smith would be a backup in houston with leinart if it wasnt for jim

A Perfect Score · 01-25-2012, 06:59 PM

I'm certainly not saying John Harbaugh is a better coach then Jim. I have a large amount of respect for what Jim Harbaugh did both at Stanford and for the Niners. I'm just saying statements like "Jim is better by a huge margin" are absolutely not correct.

thegreatone · 01-25-2012, 08:38 PM

I'm a Raven fan, and I'd kill to have Jim as the coach of this team.

John wishes he was on the same planet as Jim.

Brent · 01-25-2012, 08:46 PM

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Yeah...in the NFC West, the worst division in football. The AFC North is arguably the best. Come now sir, you're better then that.

The NFC East and AFC South all had worse non-divisional records than the NFC West, so let's not **** all over them just yet. (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post...ord-tops-easts)

Ravens1991 · 01-25-2012, 08:49 PM

It is obviously too early to say but I am very very impressed with Jim and what he has done at SF. But I can rant on and on forever about what I dont like about John. We will see in the years to come but I could see Jim being better then John.

Raiderz4Life · 01-25-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

Suggs/Ray Lewis/Ed Reed

Use stats any way you want, but any coach would dream to inherit a D with guys like that already installed.

Willis, J Smith, Goldson

Seems like a good core to come to as well.

XxXdragonXxX · 01-25-2012, 09:10 PM

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Yeah...in the NFC West, the worst division in football. The AFC North is arguably the best. Come now sir, you're better then that.

The NFC West had 3 teams in the playoff hunt at the end of the year. Oh and the Seahawks beat the Ravens but couldn't beat the Niners.

Also the correct answer is theyre both the same level douchebags.

Sloopy · 01-25-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Caddy

Suggs/Ray Lewis/Ed Reed

Use stats any way you want, but any coach would dream to inherit a D with guys like that already installed.

Patrick Willis/Bowman/Justin Smith/Aldon Smith/Vernon Davis/an OL comprised of mostly first rounders.

I know you could add some others to the Ravens list but lets not pretend like this was exactly a **** team when Jim took over.

Regardless both are quite good, only time will tell for Jim but I'd say John is pretty proven.