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Seriously, Hampton just needs cut. I feel like a broken record but:

- He's 35
- He always shows up to camp overweight and out of shape
- Suffered an ACL injury in the playoff game that required surgery
- Will count $8.1 million against the cap next year.
- He's 35, overweight and out of shape and had an ACL injury that required surgery

Seriously. **** bringing him back. Steeler fans get this stupid boner-inducing attachment to anyone who spends more than like 4 years on the team, particularly defenders.

Cut him and sign literally anyone cheaper and you'll get the same impact.

Constantly pushing guaranteed money forward just means you'll be facing an even worse situation down the line.
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You can always cut and then re-sign him at the vet minimum with an incentive or two.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...n-on-pup-list/

Ballard and Beckum likely to start the 2012 season on the PUP list. The Giants badly need TE depth.
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I want the Redskins to sign Manning and the Dolphins to sign Flynn so Griffinzzzzzzzzomg ends up in Cleveland w/o trading all our good picks.
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Fleener is looking like a lock for us right now. Which sucks, bc Burfict is growing on me and I would love to grab him in the 1st.
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Fleener is looking like a lock for us right now. Which sucks, bc Burfict is growing on me and I would love to grab him in the 1st.
Eh, I don't get the Burfict love. High ceiling and all but I don't buy the hype.

I think if the Giants some how kept Manningham and added Fleener in the draft that passing attack could be ridiculous though
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Eh, I don't get the Burfict love. High ceiling and all but I don't buy the hype.

I think if the Giants some how kept Manningham and added Fleener in the draft that passing attack could be ridiculous though
Cause -> Effect

The guy has freakish talent but he's already got a James Harrison reputation without having even played a down yet in the NFL. If he looks at a guy wrong after the play, flags will be flying.
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Eh, I don't get the Burfict love. High ceiling and all but I don't buy the hype.

I think if the Giants some how kept Manningham and added Fleener in the draft that passing attack could be ridiculous though
I'm still scouting Burfict, so my opinion on him could change.

Fleener, my worry with him is he's probably a 4.7-4.8 at 245 lbs. He'll need to get to 265-270 lbs in our system bc you block so much in the run game and the TE's ability to set the edge vs DEs is critical to the success of our offense.

Now when he packs on that weight, how fast is he gonna be? I don't see the point of getting a slow TE in the 1st round.

That's my concern.
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Mario Williams will have a 22.9 million dollar tag if he gets franchised. He is not coming back. The Texans are like 20mil over the cap.


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Giants should just go after Carlson instead of drafting a TE.
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I'm still scouting Burfict, so my opinion on him could change.

Fleener, my worry with him is he's probably a 4.7-4.8 at 245 lbs. He'll need to get to 265-270 lbs in our system bc you block so much in the run game and the TE's ability to set the edge vs DEs is critical to the success of our offense.

Now when he packs on that weight, how fast is he gonna be? I don't see the point of getting a slow TE in the 1st round.

That's my concern.
You won a Superbowl starting Ballard on one bad knee for the last chunk of the season. I think it's pretty clear that speed is not high on the priority list at TE for the Giants.
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You won a Superbowl starting Ballard on one bad knee for the last chunk of the season. I think it's pretty clear that speed is not high on the priority list at TE for the Giants.
So why spend a 1st on a guy right? The problem is, if you go into the season with a 4th round rookie TE as your only healthy TE, you're playing with fire.

And as eluded to above, if we sign a guy like Carlson, we overpay for an injured TE who again, isn't exactly a world beater athlete.

I want an athlete dammit. I'm tired of these slow white guys. (No offense to the board)
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If not Carlson, then sign like, Visanthe Shiancoe to a 2 year deal. He's older, probably won't cost much, and brings more as a receiver than the guys you had anyway since Beckum is pretty much a bust now.
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Or, if you want an athlete the Pats will trade you Aaron Hernandez for JPP and Hakeem Nicks
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...and Cruz.
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We also have the best TE coach in football. TE is obviously a need, but whoever we field, Pope will get every bit out of them. He can spot these guys a mile away.
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Good idea. That way we don't need to keep Welker
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Good idea. That way we don't need to keep Welker
Bingo. Plus, it makes the trade perfectly fair as well.
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Osi for Gronk. We'll throw in Barden.
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Someone test him for drugs. Now.
We were trying to have a serious conversation but you went and ****** it up. Thanks.
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Pats fans, shut it.

You will franchise Welker, get him all pissy, he will hold out half the season and return out of football shape too late to help you.

Meanwhile, you'll sign Brandon Lloyd and draft TY Hilton in the 4th round as the only additions to your receiving corps.

Deal with it.
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Osi for Gronk. We'll throw in Barden.
That trade was fairer for the Pats before Barden was put in
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Pats fans, shut it.

You will franchise Welker, get him all pissy, he will hold out half the season and return out of football shape too late to help you.

Meanwhile, you'll sign Brandon Lloyd and draft TY Hilton in the 4th round as the only additions to your receiving corps.

Deal with it.
Hey I'm happy with that as long as we get a few 2nd round DBs and a future first round pick. #winningatthedraft
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Burfict is going to drop on draft day. I expect him to go somewhere in round 2.

Also Dwayne Allen > Coby Fleener. He'll get drafted before him at least.
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Originally Posted by BeerBaron View Post
Pats fans, shut it.

You will franchise Welker, get him all pissy, he will hold out half the season and return out of football shape too late to help you.

Meanwhile, you'll sign Brandon Lloyd and draft TY Hilton in the 4th round as the only additions to your receiving corps.

Deal with it.
Can I please live in my fantasy world until draft day? Is that ok with you!?
*crosses fingers , wishes on stars, blows out candles for MW17, VJax or DJax*
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