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America's game was awesome! Tuck with the He-man cartoon reference! Best cartoon ever.
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America's game was awesome! Tuck with the He-man cartoon reference! Best cartoon ever.
I'll check it out for sure but I find the current America's Game to not be nearly as good. Guys don't have the same perspective with no time to reflect and they can't always be open and upfront about people because they are still playing in the league, on that team.
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Why is it that none of our receivers can ever be healthy? Ford, Moore, Schillens, Murphy, etc, etc,.
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does anyone know if you can IR a player with the designation to return week 6 if they get injured during the season? Like if someone gets injured week 1 or 2, just IR them and then you can use that roster spot for another player
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I'll check it out for sure but I find the current America's Game to not be nearly as good. Guys don't have the same perspective with no time to reflect and they can't always be open and upfront about people because they are still playing in the league, on that team.
Watch the Strahan one in the first super bowl. That one was a good one. He was very open. However, all the guys that would mouth off are off the team. No Shockey,Plax, or Tiki, Can you imagine if they were doing it? LOL.
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Ramses Barden will be Eli's most dangerous pass catching threat this season.
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I think I've heard that one before
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He will have to dominate at Z. He'd have to beat out Hixon and Ruben R. I don't think he'd be in the slot. He also doesn't play special teams so he'd have to be that good to be active on game day or else he will be Mr. inactive.
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see, but here's the issue i take with it. yes, you're probably going to be pretty low percentage if you try to have kellen moore running a vertical offense with those wrs. but, if your entire offense consists solely of slants, 3 yard outs and screen passes, you're going to be equally unsuccessful. if you don't ever send everyone on a 9 and throw it, you're destroying your own ability to execute the short-range offense. *this* is what (apologies for making the same point i've been making for 5 years) josh mcdaniels never understood in denver. the offense would send zero receivers past about 8 yards, and was predicated on te screens. then the talent was blamed because opposing defenses cheated up and destroyed those plays.

so yes, 'go deep' and 'open up the offense' may be trite and generally worthless. but i wouldn't say that necessarily makes them incorrect.
I agree. Thatís the reason I was speaking in generalities.

The most disastrous thing an offense can become, other than turnover-prone, is predictable and one-dimensional. It kills the offensive flow and eases the defensive burden. When offenses donít challenge all areas of the field, defenses become more compact and eliminate the other areas.

Itís clear that group of talent is best suited for a methodical, quick-hitting short spread that sought to take advantage of no-cover zones and soft spots in shells. But, without vertical stretch, horizontal spacing compresses. And the result is an offense that struggles to mount much in terms of offense. Itís difficult to dink-and-dunk a defense to death for this reason. The execution and patience needs to be perfect and most quarterbacks that are insulated in such a scheme arenít capable of it.

Thatís where utilization of talent comes in. Lance Moore runs a lot of slant routes and cornerbacks know that. Dial up a backside sluggo once in a while. Attempt to widen windows downfield with smart route combinations. Use stick routes to get safeties to cheat and then hope to slip a post past them. When talent isnít going to get the job done itself, the design and game plan segmentation have to be even better. But if the offensive coordinator is doing these things and the talent still isnít capitalizing on their opportunities, then itís tough to have him shoulder the blame.

For example, Josh McDaniels was an unmitigated disaster in Denver, but Iíve seen him run some innovative offense, too. His problem was his inexplicable fascination with lesser quarterbacks. He had a quarterback that didnít limit him and he gift-wrapped him and sent him to Chicago and accepted mediocre passers instead that did limit him. Thatís one that I will never be able to explain. He butchered that roster in less than two seasons and will have to wait quite some time before interviewing for another head coaching gig because of it.
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Weren't all you guys killing Gilbride for a long time? I'm pretty sure Eli was still playing at a high level when this was going on and people were calling him "kill drive". What your saying makes sense, but coordinators do have a big effect.


Unless you don't have an issue with people like Jason Garrett who when we are having the best drive of the game and marching all the way down field, we get to the 30, and he pulls out the wildcat, take Romo off the field, lose 17 yards, and thus all points on that drive. Thats coordinators, not players.
I'm still not the biggest Gilbride fan. But I don't hate him anymore either. His offense is extremely complicated and it's difficult finding receivers for it. And when you do, they need a good 3 years to master it.

But at it's peak, it's basically unstoppable. Bc there is an answer for every defense. It's just so hard to pull off though. Thats why you expect high int numbers in this system, youre going to have a lot of miscommunication.

That and his refusal to go no huddle more often is frustrating. Eli is always at his best in the no huddle.

One thing we overlooked during the early years was how having dumb receivers hurt Eli's early development. That, plus I think most of us didn't truly understand this offense and how it works until recently.

I leaned alot about offensive football since 07. NYG (the poster) taught us alot.
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Steelers signed DeMarcus Van Dyke. I kinda like this signing.
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