The 4th or 5th Annual #$*&^ you were wrong about thread

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

I was dead wrong about JPP. It's been by far the biggest mistake I've made since joining this board.

Remember when I called out Eli in the preseason? Lulz

[jrdrylie]

I went back and looked at a mock draft I did right after free agency ended, here are some more gems I missed.

1. I had Cincinnati picking first, Miami second, Tennessee fourth, and San Francisco fifth.

2. More on Cincinnati. I was certain that Marvin Lewis would not make it through the season. Bengals fans argued with me, brought up the fact that he had just signed an extension. But I was adamant. I saw 3-13 coming for the Bengals.

3. I bought into the Kevin Kolb hype.

[killxswitch]

- I thought Cam Newton would struggle. Never said or thought bust, but I didn't think he'd be anywhere near as good as he was.

- I thought the Rams would be great this year and easily win the NFCW. I don't feel that bad, who knew they would suck so bad?

- I thought Corey Liuget would go to a 4-3 team for sure. Still a weird pick to me for SD.

- I thought the Bucs defense would be top 5 or top 7, somewhere around there. Ouch.

- I thought KC would prove themselves as a rising powerhouse in the AFC. Injuriezzz are partly to blame though. I still like Cassel more than most, if Bowe stays.

- I thought Cam Jordan, and really the New Orleans defense in general, would be way better.

- I thought Mark Ingram would have a wildly successful rookie year running the ball.

- I thought Gabe Carimi would quickly establish himself as the best OT of that draft.

- I thought Nate Solder would look ridiculous in the NFL.

- I gave Dalton so little thought that I'm not sure I can even say I was wrong about him.

- I thought people slept on Stephen Paea big time and that he'd make everyone look stupid for passing on him.


Damn I was wrong about a lot of stuff. I'll stop here, not because I can't think of anything else, but because I'm starting to feel bad.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Remember when I called out Eli in the preseason? Lulz

We all get bit by the dumb comment monster. At least yours was sort of in passing while I ranted about JPP for a few weeks.

[fear the elf]

Browns

McCoy would take a step forward; looking more like he did in the preseason than he actually ended up being.

The RBs (Hillis/Hardesty/Jackson) would be a team strength.

Evan Moore would be more involved. Something like 40 catches, 600 yards, 5 TDs.

Jayme Mitchell would be a serviceable DE.

Alex Mack would get the respect he deserves from the national media, after the great Pouncey debacle of 2010.

Joe Haden would get at least 1 INT. Also, he'd get some attention from the national media.

Everything else

The Bengals would be a bottom 5 team. I had no respect for the offense. I think Benson is pretty much nothing and a rookie QB would mean disaster.

Cam Newton would not be able to use his athleticism to his advantage like he did in college. He’d have to rely on his arm and would fail. So wrong…

Daniel Thomas would be the Dolphins’ primary back by week 4.

The Giants were an average team, with mix-matched parts all over the place. I saw a QB coming of an unspectacular year, two ‘meh’ RBs, one good WR (Nicks) and a guy with bad hands (Manningham), and an overrated OL. I couldn’t find one unit (outside of the DEs) that I could say I was confident in.

I basically thought the same about the Steelers. A good but slightly overrated QB; an overrated RB that averages 3.2 ypc; a good, young WR (Wallace) and a bunch of JAGs; and an awful OL with the most overrated C in the game. Add in the old defense and I expected a 9-7 or 8-8 year.

I expected a down year both from AD and MJD. I figured they couldn’t do it against 9 in the box and rookie QBs. I was sort of right with AD, but I didn’t think a down year would be due to injury; and before the injury he was playing really well.

[jrdrylie]

Wrong about Hakeem Nicks too. In the "NFL Network's Top 100 Players" thread, I got into an argument with that troll Eric Cartman. He was arguing that Hakeem Nicks was better than Calvin Johnson. I thought this idea was absurd. I said Nicks had the potential to possibly be a top-ten receiver but was nowhere close to that at the time. I wasn't wrong about Johnson being the better receiver. But I gave Nicks too little credit.

[AntoinCD]

What I said in the bold prediction thread

Lead league in Passing-Philip Rivers
Lead league in Rushing- Adrian Peterson
Lead league in Receiving-Andre Johnson
Lead league in Touchdowns- Adrian Peterson

Lead league in Tackles-Karlos Dansby
Lead league in Sacks-Demarcus Ware
Lead league in Interceptions-Antonio Cromartie

Lead league in Return Yds-CJ Spiller

#1 Offense-San Diego Chargers
#1 Defense-New York Jets

O-ROY- Mark Ingram
D-ROY-Robert Quinn

MVP-Peyton Manning

Super Bowl Champs-Atlanta Falcons

2012 #1 Overall pick-Cincinnati Bengals

So yeah... a big 0 for 15

[njx9]

Originally Posted by killxswitch

- I thought Nate Solder would look ridiculous in the NFL.

i don't think you were entirely wrong here. nate solder was/is an overrated pile of crap.

[Rosebud]

I'll expand on these later, but the ones that pop into mind are Cam Newton, Bucs, 9ers, Jacksonville, Chad Henne, The Buffalo Bills' OL, Tits, Texans and the Rams.

[DoughBoy]

I was convinced that Tim Hightower was going to be one of the top 3 rushers this year. I also thought Arian Foster would go back to his sucky UT days.

:/

[Vox Populi]

I don't usually make many predictions, and don't post them because anything can happen, but anyways...

- Dolphins turned out to be a lot better than I thought they would be despite their awful start to the season
- I thought that the Chargers would be a top 3 team in the AFC with Baltimore and Pittsburgh
- I thought the Bengals would be at best a 5-11 team
- I thought Jimmy Graham would be mediocre his entire career and be that guy who every once in a while made a big play but would be invisible most of the time. I didn't think he'd ever be able to put it all together on the field.
- I thought Shonn Green would be a touchdown machine and the Jets would build closer to taking on the persona of the mid-decade Steelers

[Razor]

I said that the Bengals would select first overall in 2012.

I was very wrong about Cam Newton.

I thought the 49ers would suck, whereas the Eagles were a legit contender (insert tactical facepalm).

[Da-Phins]

I thought Cam would be a complete bust in the NFL but he made me eat my crow the 1st game of the season. His cocky attitude and acting like he is the **** still rubs me the wrong way and wouldnt doubt it annoys his teammates from time to time either.

[DraftSavant]

Problem, y'all?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I never cared about Cam's ego or any of his tools. I just thought he was dumb as ****, and wouldn't be able to just Atlanta Michael Vick it. I guess I underestimated either how good Chud is, or Cam's just sheer work ethic, because there's no way that ************ is smart.

[DraftSavant]

Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds

I never cared about Cam's ego or any of his tools. I just thought he was dumb as ****, and wouldn't be able to just Atlanta Michael Vick it. I guess I underestimated either how good Chud is, or Cam's just sheer work ethic, because there's no way that ************ is smart.

He's like Percy Harvin, in that he only needs to rep something once or twice until he gets it.

I remember Weinke saying that when Cam worked out with him in the offseason, he had to tell him to do things once. And it'd be fixed after that.

Dumb as a ************, but evolutionary muscle memory?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Originally Posted by DraftSavant

Dumb as a ************, but evolutionary muscle memory?

Maybe. Chud did an amazing job with him/for him. I want to see what these two can do next year.



Also, missed on Dalton. I thought very good back up, fringe starter at best. Whoops.

[DraftSavant]

Chud also got Derek Anderson paid...

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

Giants win the superbowl beating the Jacksonville Jaguars with Eli putting up 4000+ yards and 30+ TDs. Kiwi and JPP combine for 20+ sacks on the season and Kenny P puts up 10+ Sacks+ForcedFumbles+Picks. C-Web goes back to being a top 5 corner in the NFL and Hakeem Nicks finds himself in the probowl with another 10+ TD season.

Elsewhere around the league Tim Tebow and the broncos find their way to 7-9 with one of the best pass rushes in the league, Doom and Miller, while the offense manages to consistently put points on the board early in games.

The Bills move out of the top 5 on the back of a much improved run defense and not entirely pathetic offense.

Bears repeat as NFC North champs.

And the Eagles faulter when Vick goes down for 6 weeks causing Vince "he just winz" Young to step in leading to the offense completely falling apart without the credible threat of Vick launching a rocket deep to DJ.

Did a lot better than i thought, but I guess the opinions I was wrong about where less strongly held so I didn't post about them.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

I'll expand on these later, but the ones that pop into mind are Cam Newton, Bucs, 9ers, Jacksonville, Chad Henne, The Buffalo Bills' OL, Tits, Texans and the Rams.

I didn't think Cam would be even a solid starter for at least a year. I thought he was tough and could make plays if Carolina just focused on running the ball and only turning to Cam when a big play was needed, kinda like the Steelers did offensively with Ben, but jesus did he surpass that.

I thought the Bucs were going to regress record wise but improve as a team, they just got worse. I didn't think the coaching staff would lose that team the way they did nor did I expect them to be as sloppy as they were. If they can get some leadership and better coaching brought in that team can still enter into the debate for second in the NFC South, but they have a lot to prove after this **** up of a season.

Didn't see the 9ers going anywhere. I thought the shortened offseason would screw Harbaugh and that offense but he did a great job of keeping things simple and just letting that defense carry the team. Completely under-rated that coaching staff's ability to figure **** out on the fly.

I thought Jacksonville would be decent enough to keep Gabbert on the bench the way the Titans did with Jake Locker, who I liked a lot more than Gabbert. But they didn't, the D was a let down and the passing game fell apart leading to the abortion which was Blaine Gabbert 2011-???

**** Chad Henne. I thought he'd do big things and knock the Jets off of their perch as the AFC East's #2 team. With some decent shorter options, a sound running game that add some serious big play ability in Reggie Bush and that defense, I figured they'd be fighting for a Wild Card spot all season long.

I liked Fitzy, Freddie and Stevie but I thought that their OTs would hold that OL and O back to being just not terrible, but the OTs held up better than I expected which let their actually talented players on the inside open up huge holes for Freddie to run through before he got hurt. The Bills still needs their OL to improve but the lack of pass rush put some serious distance between itself and the OTs as Buffalo's biggest problem.

I thought that Matt Hasselback would do about what he did...for 6-7 weeks before getting hurt and making way for Jake Locker to step in and basically do what Tebow did, using his running ability and toughness to spark his team into the division crown of a crippled division. I figured with that Defense, OL, CJ2K and receiving options that team could steal the NFC South, but also didn't expect the Texans to not choke away the division.

Finally my biggest **** up this year has to be the Rams who I picked to win the NFC West on the back of improvement from their OL, D and Bradford, instead the OL regressed, Bradford and SJax got hurt and the D just didn't have a chance as Spags lost that team. Still think there's some good pieces on this team, but they need to trade back grab Blackmon with the pick they get and then trade up into the early 20's/late teens to snag whichever quality OT is still there. Add a really weapon to draw the defense's attention, give that OL what could be the missing piece and get back a health Bradford and Jackson and that team could be solid next year...

[killxswitch]

Originally Posted by njx9

i don't think you were entirely wrong here. nate solder was/is an overrated pile of crap.

I thought he would be completely worthless. Like they could line up a baby giraffe and taze it pre snap and that would be more effective. He's no franchise LT but when I saw him play this season he did better than I expected.

[Nalej]

N.Solder is going to be a good pro going forward.
He played well for the majority of the year and saved our ass when Vollmer went down.
I look forward to seeing him line up for us in the future.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I'd like to think I'm at least partially right on some of this ****. Torrey Smith. I knew he could run 1 route and would be a drops machine. I just completely underestimated his ability to get behind NFL defenders.

[DraftSavant]

TORREY SMITH IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS dfsdf

[TimD]

I thought the Jets would have one of the best receiving corps in the league.

I also thought that Shonn Greene would emerge as a premier RB. While I think hes a great 1B back, I dont think he can lead a run attack on a consistent basis.