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Someone call it. This Superbowl is headed to an epic overtime.
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Might as well get it to 10!
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Aside from Finley and Avril, I don't see any real upgrades on your roster. Your offensive line and secondary, two weaknesses, remained unchanged. I already covered how I don't feel Upshaw and Tulloch are big upgrades given their mediocre fit in Wanny's defense. What other changes did you make? Are we supposed to be excited about JJ replacing TT? Hightower as the number 3 back that likely won't see the field? The fact that you got one starter out of your draft and everyone else is either deep depth or on the PS? I understand you are proud of what you've done and think you upgraded your roster, I'm just giving my honest opinion, god forbid I disagree with you.


Yea only gave up 22 sacks, Fred was an MVP before he got hurt and then spiller came in and blew **** up. Lol. Upshaw and Tulloch not upgrades is ******* funny as hell.

Mia adds a decent QB an old ass WR, coples (I like but who knows when he'll feel like playing) yet they get 8 spots better while buf makes 0% improvement, yeah, I'll have what ur smoking please.

Also I picked tru in round 2 at cb. Aaron Williams will be in yr 2. Wilson and Bryd at S, they are a great combo. Now with the pass rush via Avril and Upshaw they don't have to cover for the 20 sec they did last year.

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I agree that the Bills should be much higher. I had them in the playoffs. That is a major improvement to their team. Probably second to only the Bengals.
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I agree that the Bills should be much higher. I had them in the playoffs. That is a major improvement to their team. Probably second to only the Bengals.
No no no. Fitz sucks, SJ13 is overrated, Finley is crap with out Rogers, the online sucks, Upshaw doesn't fit, Tulloch doesn't fit, shep doesn't fit, the DBS suck and Chan Gailey is the second coming of Hitler.

I am not saying we should have been in the SB, but really no improvement.
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Cards and Texans just keep trading blows...it's what, 10-9 now?
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Yea only gave up 22 sacks, Fred was an MVP before he got hurt and then spiller came in and blew **** up. Lol. Upshaw and Tulloch not upgrades is ******* funny as hell.

Mia adds a decent QB an old ass WR, coples (I like but who knows when he'll feel like playing) yet they get 8 spots better while buf makes 0% improvement, yeah, I'll have what ur smoking please.

Also I picked tru in round 2 at cb. Aaron Williams will be in yr 2. Wilson and Bryd at S, they are a great combo. Now with the pass rush via Avril and Upshaw they don't have to cover for the 20 sec they did last year.
I went back and looked into Tulloch more after Matt said what he did, my perception on him was definitely wrong and I concede him as a big-time upgrade. For some reason I thought that he was a big, thumper type and had him at 250 pounds when he plays closer to 235-240. You'll never convince me that Upshaw is a good fit as a 4-3 DE. When he came from a down stance at Alabama, he very rarely won, he really struggles to get off blocks due to his lack of length, something that coming from an up stance helped him mitigate. You also need to do some research on Wanny's scheme if you think a short-limbed player that stands in at 6'1" and weighs 272 pounds is a good fit. I think Upshaw-Bills is one of the worst fits out there among all the mock drafts and more and more people are coming to realize it and are no longer mocking it. As I said, you nailed it with Avril, he should be paired with someone like Andre Branch or Whitney Mercilus though as they are real fits in his defense. Hell, I would argue you'd probably be better of starting Kelsay over Upshaw.

As for the Miami comment, they have the better overall team and just needed a QB, if you believe Flynn is an upgrade to Matt Moore, then there's no reason to believe they wouldn't be significantly better. Remember, Miami finished the season strong, winning 6 of their last 9, Buffalo faltered horribly down the stretch, losing 8 of their last 9. Those kinds of things typically carry over into the next season regardless of the changes made.

I'm not high on Tru either and I considered that a reach. He's very raw and I don't see him as a contributor early. Williams should improve and the safeties are solid but number 2 and 3 receivers will eat your other corners alive IMO.

Looking at your schedule, I see five definite wins, St. Louis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Jets, and Colts and five definite losses to New England, San Francisco, Houston, Arizona, and Miami. That leaves six toss-up games, it's not like I'm sitting here saying you are gonna go 2-14, I just don't see any better than 8-8 assuming good health and a few things falling in the Bills direction. You had a mediocre team last year and I think with the improvements you made, you'll have a mediocre team this year.
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definite loss? i didnt know there was such thing as a definite loss.
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Well, 21 votes....I guess we'll just settle this...
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definite loss? i didnt know there was such thing as a definite loss.
In real football there isn't. Good thing this is a fantasy offseason forum mock where you are projecting your own opinions on how the games will go so when you look at the schedule you are allowed to decide the outcome!
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Well, 21 votes....I guess we'll just settle this...
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i'll have to get looking at some prospects then.
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Man, I have to take issue with the Cowboys picking 12th. That corresponds with a 6-10 record usually. Outside of the season Romo got hurt and Jon Kitna nine games and Stephen McGee started two more, they always win at least eight games.

The receiving trio of Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, and Jason Witten is still top-five in the NFL. They still have the same solid running game. The offensive line was vastly improved. All three spots on the defensive line improved. I added a bunch of guys in the secondary. The only spot that is not really improved at all is linebacker.
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