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Old 02-26-2012, 11:24 PM    (permalink
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It's not like he was Roy Hall 2.0, the guy had 820 yards on just 28 catches this year.
oh we all knew about Hill. He was a junior who declared this year that everyone said was too raw and probably should have stayed another year to learn how to catch and play the position a little better - even though he isn't exactly in a good offense to prepare for being a pro WR in. Hall was the #5 receiver at Ohio State his senior year. If there's anything that should make Hill's stock go up it would be drills, catching the ball like Cris Carter, running good routes, and showing command of the position and stuff like that - not running a 4.36.
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Michael Brockers put up 19 reps, what does this say about his stock? Is the "long arms" excuses valid? Is this where people point out he is still raw?
Brockers is pretty much your prototypical "Boom/Bust" DT. His ceiling is astronomical, but the kid is amazingly green. I mean, what the heck is wrong with a kid who's 6'7" with 35" arms that you need to take him off the field on passing downs?

There's a ton to worry about, but it only takes one and somebody's going to take him high and pray that it works out.
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Ladarius Green was a winner today. He posts a 4.53 40, 34.5 vertical with 10 1/8 inch hands and looked pretty good in the catching drills. His strength and blocking could use some work, but someone will be very happy with him as a red zone target.
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I have a feeling that Dontari Poe is gunna blow the roof off the place tomorrow. He moves so well for a big man, and he already put up 44 on the bench.
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I have a feeling that Dontari Poe is gunna blow the roof off the place tomorrow. He moves so well for a big man, and he already put up 44 on the bench.
I just wanted to respond to a vidae post. I think that if Poe blows the roof off the place he could start getting top 10 chatter.

But really, just wanted to respond to a post by vidae.
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:57 AM    (permalink
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Brockers is pretty much your prototypical "Boom/Bust" DT. His ceiling is astronomical, but the kid is amazingly green. I mean, what the heck is wrong with a kid who's 6'7" with 35" arms that you need to take him off the field on passing downs?

There's a ton to worry about, but it only takes one and somebody's going to take him high and pray that it works out.
I like Brockers, think he's more a 5 or a 0, though. If you use him as a 3, I think it might be disappointing, although admittedly, LSU's schemes didn't allow him to attack.

That said, I'd love to get him into an odd front and move him around, a la Richard Seymour. He's not as polished as Seymour coming out (obviously), but the potential to really dominate as a 5 is there, IMO.
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I love that Eisen does that every year. It's really the highlight of the event for me. What did he clock this year?
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:11 AM    (permalink
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Brockers is pretty much your prototypical "Boom/Bust" DT. His ceiling is astronomical, but the kid is amazingly green. I mean, what the heck is wrong with a kid who's 6'7" with 35" arms that you need to take him off the field on passing downs?

There's a ton to worry about, but it only takes one and somebody's going to take him high and pray that it works out.
I don't think he's boom/bust, I think he's boom/disappointing-but-still-good. Like Spears & Tyson Jackson.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:21 AM    (permalink
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Juron Criner with a 4.68. Where is FUNBUNCHER saying he is going first round now?

I thought if he ran fast,( mid/low 4.5s or better), with his other tools he could sneak into the first.

I still think he's going to be one of the better WRs from this class but maybe not a dominant #1 type guy. Every time I saw Criner play he was abusing corners and making circus catches for Arizona.

I'm curious if he's going to run at Arizona's pro day.
But he's probably at best a 3rd rounder now, more likely a 5th.
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I don't think he's boom/bust, I think he's boom/disappointing-but-still-good. Like Spears & Tyson Jackson.
Like Robert Griffin.
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I don't think he's boom/bust, I think he's boom/disappointing-but-still-good. Like Spears & Tyson Jackson.
Marcus Spears lost his starting job to Kenyon Coleman this year, he's just disappointing.
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Ladarius Green was a winner today. He posts a 4.53 40, 34.5 vertical with 10 1/8 inch hands and looked pretty good in the catching drills. His strength and blocking could use some work, but someone will be very happy with him as a red zone target.
He's also not an impressive route runner. There's only so much he'll be able to do, but he could be absolutely studly if he develops a bit and a team uses him correctly.

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I like Brockers, think he's more a 5 or a 0, though. If you use him as a 3, I think it might be disappointing, although admittedly, LSU's schemes didn't allow him to attack.

That said, I'd love to get him into an odd front and move him around, a la Richard Seymour. He's not as polished as Seymour coming out (obviously), but the potential to really dominate as a 5 is there, IMO.

Agreed. Don't like Brockers as a 3, like him a lot as a 5.
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I know this is one of the more obscure positions but Bradie Ewing tested pretty well - 36.5 Inch Vert/10'0 broad jump

He has shown he has some explosion in his game. Coming from a run heavy offense and being a lead blocker for Montee Ball I think he might have become the best FB option in this draft when you look at his college resume and add the impressive combine results. He might have solidified himself as a mid rounder.
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4.62 for Andre Branch, very nice.
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5.37 for Brockers. Nothing to get excited about.
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4.62 for Branch is very solid.
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Why on earth would you do what Coples did to his arms?
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5.37 for Brockers. Nothing to get excited about.
horrible technique. coples with a 4.75. wtf is on his arms??? ******* gross.
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4.75 for Coples.
4.79 for Fletcher Cox. That's the athleticism I expected.
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4.79 with a 1.63 10 for Fletcher Cox!
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Impressive run for Fletcher.
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