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Brian Quick in the 2nd!
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You never know though. I mean last year, how many of our picks did people correctly predict? Even when we were on the clock at 7 i was expecting Quinn or Prince. Aldon came out of nowhere. The only picks that you could maybe see coming were Kaepernick and Ronald Johnson.
After last year, I've given up hoping for players and just rolling with whatever Baalke goes with, but I would have been mad about Fleener if he were the pick, say, 3 months ago, but now I'm okay with him being the pick because none of the WRs in this draft really "wow" me.
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I'm starting to wonder if the Niners are targeting a player and might trade up in this Draft, should one fall a couple spots. They have been so active in FA and have re-signed so many players (entire starting D intact), brought back projects from the practice squad and added depth already (Cox, Jacobs, etc.) that they don't need to bring in a ton of draft picks. It's always good to have a few more guys to develop, but if there is a unique elite player - let's say Trent Richardson - that they want, I could see a scenario where they could move up and get him. Could you imagine their offensive potential and the post-Gore future with someone like Richardson at the helm? It's an enticing situation to say the least.

I'm not saying that I think it's a good idea to trade up, especially for a scenario to draft a RB high, but I wouldn't be shocked if they did something like that on Draft day, should a player they like slide down out of the Top 10 and into the teens. I could also see a scenario for Michael Floyd being in play as well.
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I guess the most likely scenario is DeCastro if he falls because he can slide right in to the RG-position.
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Looking at the last few drafts, if they take a guy in the first, they expect him to start. Guard would make sense, but Dre Kirkpatrick or Stephon Gilmore would not be a shock either.

Could Shea McClellin play 3-4 OLB?
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Looking at the last few drafts, if they take a guy in the first, they expect him to start. Guard would make sense, but Dre Kirkpatrick or Stephon Gilmore would not be a shock either.

Could Shea McClellin play 3-4 OLB?
Aldon Smith didn't start last year.
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Quick mock draft i just came up with, let me know what you think

1- Peter Konz, C/OG
2- Robert Turbin, RB
3- Joe Adams, WR/KR/PR
4- Trumaine Johnson, DB
5- Bruce Irvin, OLB
6- Ryan Broyles, WR
7- Kevin Roger, TE
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Quick mock draft i just came up with, let me know what you think

1- Peter Konz, C/OG
2- Robert Turbin, RB
3- Joe Adams, WR/KR/PR
4- Trumaine Johnson, DB
5- Bruce Irvin, OLB
6- Ryan Broyles, WR
7- Kevin Roger, TE
I've fallen out of love with Konz because of his injury history. I hope Turbin isn't gone in 2.

Irvin dropping to 5?

Why another TE if not Fleener?
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You're right, but he did play a ton of snaps.
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wait.. falling out of love with konz due to injury and loving on robert turbin?
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wait.. falling out of love with konz due to injury and loving on robert turbin?
Robert Turbin (whom would share carries 3 ways) tore his ACL and missed a season. He never missed a single game in 2008, 2009, or 2011.

Peter Konz (who would play every snap) has missed at least 2 games in every season he has played.
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wait.. falling out of love with konz due to injury and loving on robert turbin?
Robert Turbin (whom would share carries 3 ways) tore his ACL and missed a season. He never missed a single game in 2008, 2009, or 2011.

Peter Konz (who would play every snap) has missed at least 2 games in every season he has played. So he's played roughly 10 games a year in college. Now he'd be expected to stay healthy for 16-20 in the NFL. Yeah, I ropped my love for him. He's not a big, nasty, bull-dozer either, which I tend to fall for.
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I actually would like to have Turbin rather than Konz. I just thought it was funny seeing as both have gotten injured in the pass. We all know how drafting RBs with Torn ACLs works out for us..

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I actually would like to have Turbin rather than Konz. I just thought it was funny seeing as both have gotten injured in the pass. We all know how drafting RBs with Torn ACLs works out for us..

Right. And I don't mean to dismiss a serious injury. It's just that I see consistent injuries, every season, as a potential "injurey-proneness" than 1 serious injury but consistent health every other season. Trying to be clear I guess.
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Here's where I'm at for the Niners with 4 weeks to go:


1. Coby Fleener - TE - Stanford



If he merely becomes a consistent redzone threat, he'd be worth it. We're talking about a team with a ready-made lineup at this point. They can draft for BPA or OG at this pick, or they can grab a constant mismatch in Fleener and create favorable matchups all over the field. I'm going with Fleener.

2. Brandon Boykin - DB - Georgia



I think he's going to be a playmaker in the right defense. I think the 49ers are the right defense. He will benefit from the pressure the front 7 creates and I think he would be amazing for them.

3. Robert Turbin - RB - Utah State



He's coming in for a pre-draft workout. Maybe it's a smokescreen. Maybe it's not.

4. DaJohn Harris - DE - USC



Developmental back-up with a good frame for the 3-4. I'm big on getting some draft stud to stand there and watch Justin Smith play all day. Good use of a redshirt year.

5. Ryan Broyles - WR - Oklahoma



This is a guy that I really liked before the injury. I think he's perfect for the West Coast Offense. But my plan would be to put him on IR the first year and basically redshirt him. Make sure he's healthy and give him a year to see the pro game. He wouldn't see the field at all really if they suited him up this year.

6. Olivier Vernon - OLB - Miami



Risky pick. Very raw, but has a lot of ability. The right coach could make him great. In the sixth and seventh rounds, I'm basically looking at upside guys.

7. Dante Page-Moss - DE - UNC



See above. Welcome to the practice squad.


Notes: I ignored OG. I know. Outside of the first-second rounders, I just didn't like most of them. I think Kilgore/Person/FA will be fine for this year. Also, I really wanted to get Tommy Streeter in there. I would be OK with substituting Streeter for Turbin in the third or for Harris in the fourth if he somehow was still available.
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Quick or Fleener would be sick.
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I'm starting to wonder if the Niners are targeting a player and might trade up in this Draft, should one fall a couple spots. They have been so active in FA and have re-signed so many players (entire starting D intact), brought back projects from the practice squad and added depth already (Cox, Jacobs, etc.) that they don't need to bring in a ton of draft picks. It's always good to have a few more guys to develop, but if there is a unique elite player - let's say Trent Richardson - that they want, I could see a scenario where they could move up and get him. Could you imagine their offensive potential and the post-Gore future with someone like Richardson at the helm? It's an enticing situation to say the least.

I'm not saying that I think it's a good idea to trade up, especially for a scenario to draft a RB high, but I wouldn't be shocked if they did something like that on Draft day, should a player they like slide down out of the Top 10 and into the teens. I could also see a scenario for Michael Floyd being in play as well.
This.

Players I think they could be targeting/hoping to see fall:
Trent Richardson
David Decastro
Kendall Wright
Fletcher Cox
Nick Perry
Michael Floyd

I would not be surprised at all if the Niners moved up to the 18-23 range and nabbed one of those players.
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Only way I'd be happy with Fleener in the first is we managed to grab Marvin Jones in the second. Hill and Jones are the WRs I really covet in this draft so either one of them and I'm a happy camper.
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the more and more i think about the mismatches it will create, i'd love to get fleener in the 1st. he instantly improves our redzone targets and him VD and DWalk would create some awful mismatches for defenses. hes a stanford guy. its TOO perfect.
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If not Fleener, Janoris Jenkins would be cool at 30.
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whats the beat on jenkins? he seems like so much of a wildcard. i just dont know what to make of him and i've actually seen him play(same conference).
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1. Trade for an early 2nd and 4th?
2. Kevin Zeitler OG, Wisconsin
2. Chris Givens WR, Wake Forest
3. Josh Robinson CB, UCF
4. Kheeston Randall DL, Texas
4. Juron Criner WR, Arizona
5. Janzen Jackson DB, Tennessee
6. Donald Stephenson OT, Oklahoma
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If not Fleener, Janoris Jenkins would be cool at 30.
As gifted as they come, but a headcase off the field. Then agin, we signed Perrish Cox so idk what our view is on character at the moment.
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As gifted as they come, but a headcase off the field. Then agin, we signed Perrish Cox so idk what our view is on character at the moment.
Which is why Jenkins seems like a longshot. Why pair the two together? One or the other? Fine, but using them both? Scary.
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The closer we get to the draft the stronger feeling I have that the Niners will either trade up or down out of this pick.
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